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Author:  Foxx866 [ Fri May 29, 2009 9:43 am ]
Post subject:  not drinking: DHV or DLV

i never found drinking to be my thing, and all my friends know and accept it

but i was thinking about it today, is this a DHV for me or a DLV?

Author:  ShadoWSlash [ Fri May 29, 2009 10:12 am ]
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i would say DHV...cause being drunk tard is not a beautiful thing to see, also almost all AFCs like to drink...so its good to stand out :P
If ppl ask you why u dont drink say that u dont need something to fake having fun, cause ur always having fun :)

but i donnu :P hope i helped

Author:  Feist [ Fri May 29, 2009 10:22 am ]
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If you drink too much and get all drunk it is certainly a DLV but I wouldn't call not drinking a particular DHV either.
What is true is that it increases your focus, you'll be less easily distracted when you're talking to a woman and thus it seems to her like you pay more attention and your responses will be quicker when you're not flat on your face.
So the results that come with not drinking do increase your value, but I've seen guys do that with alcohol in their bodies aswell.
Hope that helped!
Peace, by Feist

Author:  roosh [ Fri May 29, 2009 3:04 pm ]
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hey man, I would say that it is all about how you frame it. It can be a major DHV if you show that you are good fun and are able to enjoy yourself without it. If you are uptight and can't loosen up because of it then it will come across as DLV IMO.

I quit drinking recently, after a spell in rehab and I know myself that it is definitely HV (for me personally). My life is unfathomably better, I still have as much fun, if not more than when i was drinking and my head is as clear as can be. I now, am a lot more laid back and have a much brighter outlook on life. This all comes across in everything I do.

How you could possibly frame it is, as was mentioned, say you don't need it to enjoy yourslef - you could possibly neg on her for needing alcohol to have a good time, say that that is why she always ends up meeting douchebags.

Say that you've got a very active life and you don't need hangovers slowing you down. Say you found yourself sleeping in at the weekends until whatever time doesn't show DLV, and that you've "discovered a whole new world by getting up, that much earlier. Say you spend so much time at work that you want to make the most of your weekends, and you can get so much more done when you wake up early and fresh on a saturday morning - possibly neg on her saying that you bet she's just lazy on a sat or sun and grouchy. Say how you go for a run early in the morning, when the birds are singing, the sun is just after rising, and say that it sets you up for the day (I don't do all this by the way, just an idea of what you could say)

If you've got younger brothers/sisters/nephews/nieces/ a kid, say that you have to take them out to do somehting some weekends and you don't like to be suffering with a hangover around them - kids are very perceptive you know, they take so much in subconsciously, they learn from the people around them, especially adults how to behave (social programming).

I'm just waffling, but you can really make it into DHV if you try, and probably more importantly, if you actually feel it is DHV

Author:  Jav [ Fri May 29, 2009 5:29 pm ]
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Stop worrying whether other people think its a dhv or dlv. Think for yourself.

People generally wont even notice. Even if they come up to you and ask why you're not drinking tell them you're the designated chode or whatever.

Author:  Cock_roach [ Fri May 29, 2009 5:48 pm ]
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Quote:
i would say DHV...cause being drunk tard is not a beautiful thing to see, also almost all AFCs like to drink...so its good to stand out :P
If ppl ask you why u dont drink say that u dont need something to fake having fun, cause ur always having fun :)

but i donnu :P hope i helped
Like in case of, as I think, most of activities, it depends whether it is n atural for you or not. AFCs like to drink to give themselves courage, other drink because they just like. I guarantee youi, it's always visible when a man drinks in order to be more confident and when drinks in order to have fun.

That's because pure drinking won't bring you any advantage. If you have poor body language, nothing to say in women company, they'll spot it in one moment.

Also, when you're drinking but when you're overall confident in life, it'll be visible and it will not be trated in minus for you. Women love alcohol addicts, under condition it doesn't stop them being amazing, unpredictable and full of sense of humour.

Author:  Ezo [ Fri May 29, 2009 10:48 pm ]
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Well, it all depends on who YOU are!

Its neither a DHV or a DLV by itself. If you are gonna apologize for it then it is a DLV. If you are gonna say, Im not drinking, like it or fuck off, its a DHV.

Its all framewars. Its not really about drinking or not drinking. Its about how you present it.

If Brad Pitt starts playing with Lego, thats awsome! If you start playing with Lego, its strange. Whats the difference, people think that he is cool and per definition, all things he does are cool too.
Be cool and you never have to apologize for anything.

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