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The kiss close, shifting gears to F-close and LMR
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Author:  Mickstyle [ Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:25 pm ]
Post subject:  The kiss close, shifting gears to F-close and LMR

I have ran into this problem a few times with girls when hanging out the first time. I invite them over to watch a movie no chairs so my bed is the only place to lay and its damn comfortable bed at that. I make good conversation throughout the movie and use kino escalation to move into kissing. I also change the position im laying in a few times to see if the girl mirrors what im doing with my body to show she is responsive to my body language. After kissing a few times i start to move into some caressing and feeling up.(PS thank god for the girl co worker/girlfriend who trained me to get a bra off with one hand lol) During this stage i take my time with the girl and make sure she is comfortable before going any further. At this point the most common LMR i get is " we just met " "I dont really know you" " i need to be good we just met" what would be the best way to breaj through this ? Freeze out ? These have all been college age girls so im wondering how they would respond to the freeze out.

Author:  pillow_fight [ Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:35 pm ]
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You can agree with them then just turn them on more. I think it's DiCarlo's escalation ladder that has methods of stimulation that are indirect, those'll turn her on more and she'll give in to go further later. I usually agree then keep at the same level then try to escalate again a bit later when the girl is more turned on. Make her want it a lot.

Author:  Mickstyle [ Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:49 pm ]
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Never thought of that pillow fight good lookin out man. In the situation I have also kinda wanted to use the push and pull method, like kissing her but then pulling away and when she tries to kiss me back playfully avoid it, or completely stop then kiss for a while and escalate then only kiss again for a while then escalate and build my way up. I thought this would also establish my frame, and let her know that we are going to be playing by my rules here. Cheers fellas !I dont know about the rest of you but its Thirsty Thursday here in Oregon.

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