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Author:  All-American [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:01 am ]
Post subject:  Class game...how do I succed with this one?
This semester, I am in a class that focuses on public speaking. It's a small class, close to 20 people (most of the class is female :wink: ). I've had lots of experience with speeches in the past, so I do rather well in the class. While I was doing well in the class, I was not doing well when it came to getting girls to open up and hold a conversation - they just seemed closed towards me. I usually brought a newspaper to class and read some of it to kill time before class began, since conversations and interactions were going nowhere.

Well, that all changed recently. Last week, I presented my best speech of the semester so far. I used an array of props, had some good jokes and made the class laugh, I interacted with the audience, and my delivery was perfect. Ever since that speech, I have received nothing but positive vibes from some of the girls in the class. They cheerfully say hi, they begin the conversations with me (it's about 50/50 on who initiates) and now it seems I'm getting along with everyone I talk to.

I haven't been pursuing any girls in particular lately - kinda took a break after dealing with back-to-back episodes of girl BS the past few months. With my confidence rebuilding, I am tempted to try and make use of this new-found popularity in the class. Unfortunately, this isn't the usual case of: I see one girl in class, I figure out how to make move, I attempt move, end of story. This is because:
1.) I can try this on a couple or a few girls in the class, not just one. I first need to see who I'd click the best with.
2.) People in this class seem to generally get along. If I go for it and get turned down, I know other classmates will soon find out, and then its awkward for the rest of the semester.

In addition to trying and figure out who I should pursue - if anyone - I have some questions:
1.) What is the best way to operate classroom game when it's a small class environment like this? Sometimes we work in pairs or groups, and people generally tend to get along with one another.
2.) I believe this is a one-and-done thing. If I do ask one girl out and get turned down, my chances with every other girl in the class goes down too. They'll see themselves as a second option, and that's never good.
3.) In no way is this some sort of ego validation, but...how does one speech create such a change in the class environment? No girls used to really talk to me, now I seem to get considerable more attention from the girls. Seemed rather quick?
Author:  All-American [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:14 pm ]
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I have the class again tomorrow, so if anyone has insight or advice, I'd appreciate it. When it comes for getting my game on in class, I'm not sure what the best way to play it is - when more than one girl is a possibility.

The girl I am probably into the most is, of course, seemingly the hardest to get. I don't try to shoot for the stars by any means, but I guess there's a reason why she's desirable. Her looks are about a 7.5 and she has a very good personality. She seems pretty friendly in general. I feel I need to work in a little more C+F about more topics if she's the one I want to make a move on. I do use some C+F surrounding her job at school (manager at the dining hall), but I need new topics lol. She'll also do things where she'll leave when I am talking to a couple other girls in the class, but coincidentally we're leaving class at the very same time (I purposely took awhile to get myself going, apparently it took her that long to pack her bags too), so we have some small talk before I'm off to my next class.

Another girl in the class - a HB7 - I may have the best shot with. She cheerfully says hi, said I did "an amazing job" on my last presentation, etc. I feel I need to talk to her a little bit more - get to know her a little - if she's the one I want to make a move on. A couple other girls I am just beginning to know, so those relationships are all developing too.

By no means do I feel I have to do anything here. I haven't dated in awhile, so I'm trying to find chances and opportunities for myself with girls who I feel things could work with. While I really do not want to wait too long, I would like to know who I'm asking out a little bit before anything goes down. My campus doesn't have many great parties lately (I'm not 21 yet), so class and everyday activities are the only real places I find girls.
Author:  McLucky [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:16 pm ]
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I had a public speaking class last year. Ladies love it because face it, they all love a man who can talk and public speaking class shows them just that. Anyway back to your problem, If you bomb with one that doesn't necessarily mean you dont have a chance with any. The way I find that works is pick a target and make nice with every other girl in the class. If for some reason you mess it up with your target (which of course you wont) you've already built rapport with all these other girls anyway and It wont matter. Oh and make your speeches stand out, it can only help you in this situation.
Author:  All-American [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:51 am ]
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Thanks McLucky. I have done pretty well on all of my speeches so far, though this last one was the best (the only reason I didn't get the "holy grail" 100 was because I went a little over on time). I made the topic my own and had a lot of fun with it. I plan on doing the same on the next one as well.

I figure your theory is right, that girls like a man who is confident in front of others and speaks well (kinda obvious). It's not as if I didn't speak well during the other speeches - I was very solid. I feel I blew away the class on this speech though, and that brought about this movement.

Your advice of making nice with every girl in the class is, of course, good. I'll see if I want to pursue anything with any of the girls in the class and hopefully that works out. My plan is to continue building rapport and seeing if I really click with anyone. It's a smaller class, so I still feel word could slowly get around if something does not work.
Author:  McLucky [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:26 pm ]
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Just remember class game is different then anything else. Your going to see these girls for a couple hours a day for a couple months guaranteed. It's not like on the street or at the bar were if you let one go you might never see her again. Take your time, you got nothing but. Plus I'm pretty certain if you act too quickly that can work against you too. I play it pretty slow with girls in class and wont number close for a couple classes at least. You've got nothing but time man.
Author:  sixtopher [ Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:40 pm ]
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If I were in your shoes i would try to develop relationships outside of class. get a few numbers a few E-mail addresses, social networking profiles or whatever and do your main sarging outside of class. inside class maintain. Engage everyone be social, it sounds like everyone likes you so keep it up. Also I recommend seeing if the clas would all like to go out sometime. Like as a class so you can see how they react socially and you'll have a lot of pivots with you. Inviting the entire class out would show leadership and initiative and that you have social aptitude, all that manly man shit that they love.

P.S. I'm under the impression that this is a college course or a personal improvement class. The demographics might be different if you're in highschool or something.
Author:  All-American [ Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:13 am ]
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If I were in your shoes i would try to develop relationships outside of class. get a few numbers a few E-mail addresses, social networking profiles or whatever and do your main sarging outside of class. inside class maintain. Engage everyone be social, it sounds like everyone likes you so keep it up. Also I recommend seeing if the clas would all like to go out sometime. Like as a class so you can see how they react socially and you'll have a lot of pivots with you. Inviting the entire class out would show leadership and initiative and that you have social aptitude, all that manly man shit that they love.

P.S. I'm under the impression that this is a college course or a personal improvement class. The demographics might be different if you're in highschool or something.
I'm in college alright. Your idea is pretty original, but I don't think its very realistic with this class. Sure, people get along, but no one is really that close - not close enough that 20 classmates would hang out together once. It's a very good idea, but I don't think it would actually happen.

I can friend people on Facebook, but that doesn't really count. If I ask for a number, making a move would be the next expected step. That's not a problem, but you can't do one without the other.
Author:  sixtopher [ Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:24 pm ]
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Yes you can...you have to frame the reasoning as to why you want it. Usually set it up for some innocent day two thing. Like I recently got this chicks number in front of her mother by saying that I'd love to take her out for sushi as she's never had any. or do the facebook thing online game then get the number that way...idk there's a million ways to do it. You could just say hey I think you're cool...give me your number. that's it...go home and give her a ring when you feel like it.

Also one thing I've learned from pick-up is that anything is possible. I would have never thought that I could walk up to a four-set in a nightclub tell them that I'm collecting panties and have them give their panties to me. Just say hey everyone...It's a public speaking class make it a public speech...Hey everyone I'd like to invite everyone to dinner. What's a good restaurant? (Commitment and consistency, someone will name a restaurant, someone else will interject it'll become a light-hearted debate. and the fact that they're debating about makes it seem important to them.) Then pick a restaurant and say cool what about this saturday whatever time. I'll make the reservation. Everyone see me after the class so I can get a count of who wants to come.

I've done it before in a drama class I was taking in high school. Anything is possible.
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