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Author:  babulixe [ Sat Mar 28, 2009 2:29 am ]
Post subject:  Where did I go wrong? How to improve? Advice Please
Hey,

The story happened tonight. This girl came to my place tonight and we cooked together. I am only a week old in this whole thing but I tried all the things that I have learned in the last 6 days. I did a few neg and disqualification to which made her really laugh. I tried the cube, palm reading and tried a kino escelation by asking her to give me her hand and holding my hand and what she did was holding my arm like and arm in arm thing. Honestly I did not spot any IOI but I made her laugh til the very last moment and all I got at the end was a hug which I tried to make it extended. I'm quite happy to do all things because I'm usually shy and quite however, i won't really say that i have succeeded since I couldn't get any K close or F close. What so you think? What could I have done better?
Author:  Angelz [ Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:17 pm ]
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What you done is very good. Your only a week old and you have come far, be happy you have acheived something. However, if really want to master this you cant just stop at this one girl, keep going out and practiseing try to achive more. Learnardo da vinci didnt paint the Mona Lisa, the first time he picked up the paintbrush. Practise make perfect. So keep practising. Oh, if you're really into this girl keep gaming her, keep doing the routines and work. But dont be afraid to go out and meet new girls - as they will give you epreince that you can't just learn from books and videos. Good Luck dude. Plenty more fish in the sea, plenty more roses in the garden.
Author:  manman [ Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:37 am ]
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Yea, you weren't being yourself, so she wasn't feeling you. Its not about what you say man, its 93% body language. You could have been yourself and flirted with her, and or went in for a move, and atleast you would have gotten SOLID results, whether she accepted or not, now, she doesn't know WHAT happened, and probably doesn't even know who you are, and if you EVEN LIKE HER. Since she didn't give you any IOI'S, you might as well call her up and ask her, "so how did i do?" would you date me again?" you might have not done as well as you think you did.... Be yourself, this way, things happen naturally. Whats gonna happen if you mess up on a routine or forget? Then, its gonna come down to your personality, Are you an alpha male, are you happy, confident? good luck man......been there
Author:  babulixe [ Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:08 am ]
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Yea, you weren't being yourself, so she wasn't feeling you. Its not about what you say man, its 93% body language. You could have been yourself and flirted with her, and or went in for a move, and atleast you would have gotten SOLID results, whether she accepted or not, now, she doesn't know WHAT happened, and probably doesn't even know who you are, and if you EVEN LIKE HER. Since she didn't give you any IOI'S, you might as well call her up and ask her, "so how did i do?" would you date me again?" you might have not done as well as you think you did.... Be yourself, this way, things happen naturally. Whats gonna happen if you mess up on a routine or forget? Then, its gonna come down to your personality, Are you an alpha male, are you happy, confident? good luck man......been there
Thanks you manman,

I think being myself is what I was missing, but, I am doing all this game because i know being my self would not get me anywhere...I'm generally really shy... maybe doing all these would causes my whole personality to change slowly but at the moment maybe faking things is the best thing. I'm not quite sure. In terms of date, I have already confirmed my next date with her, but I'm not sure if i've become just a normal friend for her or if she's any other interests in me!!
Author:  manman [ Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:04 am ]
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[quote="babulixe
Thanks you manman,

I think being myself is what I was missing, but, I am doing all this game because i know being my self would not get me anywhere...I'm generally really shy... maybe doing all these would causes my whole personality to change slowly but at the moment maybe faking things is the best thing. I'm not quite sure. In terms of date, I have already confirmed my next date with her, but I'm not sure if i've become just a normal friend for her or if she's any other interests in me!![/quote]


Your welcome. And no, hiding your true self and your intensions and covering them with routines, cocky funny, lines, negs, its bullshit. Its what the community teaches. Well alot of the community is made up of weird creeps. You should go the natural way. I have met guys that have been using unnatural game for about 2 years, and they are still in the ruts. No, not being yourself will screw your mentality all up, as it will with women u talk to. Here, Ill give you 2 years, keep doing canned stuff and cocky funny,etc routines, not showing interest, And tell me 2 years down the road, how your love life is treating you. I guarantee you 100%its the same it is now, or you ve become a creepier person socially. I strongly reccomend you work on your inner self and your body language, that alone will make your true person WAY more attractive.
Author:  manman [ Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:08 am ]
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A woman, really will like you for YOU, you just have to learn to be the BEST you. And how do you do that? Work on your inner game/ beliefs. , the way you project yourself, your attitude/body language. I wish you the best of luck, take the new route, I can suggest what programs ive used, and tips and stuff if you wanna know. But where im at now, Women hit on me EVERYDAY. No, I dont use ANY routines, openers, i dont NEG, I don't use any kind of DHV. I wish you good luck. And on your new 2nd date, Be yourself, and use alot of eye contact, get her to talk about herself, flirt a little. Forget all the other crap man...!!! :)
Author:  great1 [ Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:17 am ]
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u sound like u was doin good man! she is interested cuz she came over to yo spot so dat u know but a lil more sexual tention would be great! remember it takes 7 to 10 hours to bang a girl so next time u on a date instead of a handshake go for the hug n a kiss on da cheek right off da bat n go from there!
Author:  manman [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:28 am ]
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u sound like u was doin good man! she is interested cuz she came over to yo spot so dat u know but a lil more sexual tention would be great! remember it takes 7 to 10 hours to bang a girl so next time u on a date instead of a handshake go for the hug n a kiss on da cheek right off da bat n go from there!

Not to be rude, but. Oh, it does take 7-10 hours to bang a girl? I didn't know that... I've been having sex for 25 years now, and i'd say thats some more Mystery bullshit. You can't put a time limit to a womans mind. It doesn't work that way guys. And yes, you are doing good, I just want the girl to like you for YOU, man. Thats the only way.
Author:  babulixe [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:28 pm ]
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manman, i quite agree with you...i myself am not trying to get into girls pants... maybe in later stages of relationship but now i'm just trying to establish a solid conection. i can never get myself just want girls for sex!! that's quite gross
Author:  cedius [ Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:20 pm ]
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the theory behind Mystery's 7 hour rule is that there is no guarantee that she will sleep with you in that amount of time but will consider sleeping with you after that time frame and comfort has been established.

What I mean is that you can't run all this pre-scripted game on her within the first hour and expect her to fall to her knees.

Yes, you are right that you can't put a time limit on her and expect results but if you do everything right, that is a result you may get within that time (7 Hours)...could be sooner or could take longer.

I think you played it well babulixe, take that experience and learn from it. Im shy when it comes to meeting new people, I think that is why we are all here....too learn.
Hell, worst case scenario, take her out and use her as a wing if she looks that good.

I take any criticism with an open mind, any rants, go for it.
Author:  Ezo [ Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:06 pm ]
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There are never any guarantees. You win some and lose some. Mystery came up with the 7 hour rule not as a rule but as the average time it takes for him to successfully F-close. This number is what he considers to be the time it takes to minimize LTR and still not let the attraction get cold.
Do you see the point, he is just trying to tell you to not rush it and not to take too long or she may get bored.

Anyway, not bad for a first time. One of the things that I see here is that you tried everything you have learned. It is a little too much, too mechanic. Routine, routine, routine... Talk about normal stuff too. Tell her about yourself, listen to what she is saying, pay attention. Learn about who she is. Using too many routines may make you seem like you have something to prove. Too tryhard...

Keep up the good work man!

Ezo
Author:  EatTheCookie [ Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:57 pm ]
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Author:  manman [ Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:45 am ]
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A woman will tell if she is attracted to you or not before you even open your mouth to her. Attraction isn't a choice.
Author:  babulixe [ Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:01 pm ]
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A woman will tell if she is attracted to you or not before you even open your mouth to her. Attraction isn't a choice.

If what you're saying is true what's the whole point of the game? I think the attraction you may be talking about it physical attraction and then you can deepen these attraction by doing all the games and stuff.
Author:  manman [ Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:46 am ]
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A woman will tell if she is attracted to you or not before you even open your mouth to her. Attraction isn't a choice.

If what you're saying is true what's the whole point of the game? I think the attraction you may be talking about it physical attraction and then you can deepen these attraction by doing all the games and stuff.

Im glad you asked man... Whats the point of the game? Well, its something that pick up gurus have created, just as they created all of the rules you know? Like never lean in, act disinterested, talk alot etc..They teach you to approach women, and alot. But only its a thin sheer of game that women can see through. The games and routines and shit, negging, Its all fake game. And its not needed, definately not.
A woman will tell if she is attracted to you or not before you even open your mouth to her:::::Why do you think SO, many guys that practice the game stuff get blown out? Have you seen VH1 the pick up artist? I know you have, Take a pathetic look at how all these guys approach women, and they almost all get blown way the fuck out....You guys think its because of the openers they are using? Fuck, no.... Its not what you say, Look at how these guys are approaching women, they are nervous to approach because (their mindset is so screwed up with women, that women seem to be goddess cruel mean bitches) So they approach them with that mindset. And So do you think Mystery helps any by telling them that they HAVE to neg, show DHV, kino, all that stuff, it ,makes them fuckin nervous man....they feel they have to perform like a master. And thats not what the game is about... Ask if you have any more questions.......


ps: I am VERY good with women in the monment, absolutely NO harsh rejections. NO blowouts, No bullshit. I know the mindset you need to have.
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