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FINAL Debate [Drink up or No Drinking]
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Author:  FuturePUA [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:43 am ]
Post subject:  FINAL Debate [Drink up or No Drinking]
Not sure if this goes here but here we go.

Forget about the drinking. I don't think I'll ever drink at club/lounge type bar. I went to a Lounge in DC last Saturday- 3/21. There was a few cute girls checking me out (I'm not bragging just telling you a story behind me never drinking again) and I didn't approach them. Some of them got closer to me but I still didn't make a move. One of them actually approach and started dancing with me, she was all over me telling me to grind but stupid me was not in the mood. I was in the mood for drinking because all the guys I came with before we got in the lounge were like “we're all going to get drunk” because it was one of my friend's birthday and all you can drink from 10pm-12am so my mentality was let’s get drunk. So when she tried dancing with me, I was like “I’m not drunk yet” which was bad because I thought it might've made her think she’s not good enough. But she was cute and actually cool with it because she was like here drink my drink even though I already have a drink on my hand. So I did, how it all end up wasn’t smooth or at least nice. Also, she pull my hat down, put her face closer to me, giving me and invitation to kiss but I didn't. It wasn’t fun, so I am never drinking again. I'm not your average AFC- I'm not bad looking and I got some game (but drinking messed it up). I don’t normally drink to have fun. I have fun regardless.

So from experience, drinking makes your mind slow which is the only weapon you have where your game lies. Yes, drinking makes you crazy-do things you wouldn't normally do. You don't need to be crazy. You need to be yourself. (What if you're shy, not outgoing or have AA? good question, I have an answer---find out)

BTW, I found this story "about me not drinking again" a DHV. I told this story to a girl and I #-closed.
Author:  lordloverocket [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:04 am ]
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It sounds like there was pear pressure to drink but you didnt. However, you said that you will never drink again even though you only had one drink and you werent drunk so technically, you were, yourself when you said that you were "just not in the mood".

I have found it hard to even speak on the same level when my mates when they have started drinking, they shout, and do things they normally wouldnt do and you actually see what you would look like if you were drunk aswell.

If you were comfortable not being drunk and chatting them up then you would have done it. I dont undestand why you didnt. It must have been an underlining insecurity.

Fair enough you wanted to get drunk, why didnt you get her to buy you some drinks and go sit down then?

It was your mates birthday aswell so im pretty sure he would have wanted you to be with the big group for his birthday rather than you looking moody on the dancefloor.
Author:  FuturePUA [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:01 am ]
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I did drink. I had a few drinks, 3 plus to be exact. It was mostly hard liquor. I wasn't myself because if I was myself at that time, I would be having a blast. See with me, I don't mind going up to girls and dance with them. If one said no, move on to the next one (I have no quit attitude).

I'm guessing your mates are mostly AFC? What I see is that most AFC needs a drink or need to get drunk before they can actually approach girls. Not sure exactly why, but I'm guessing they need an excuse for why they're approaching women (something they don't normally do). There are smoother ways to approach a woman.

Having those few drinks froze my game up that's why I couldn't chat with them. I lost openers, C&F lines, games, etc. (the only thing going on for me during that time was I didn't look like every other guy in the lounge, I was different). That's why I vote not to drink if you are an AFC trying to be a PUA.

When I told her "I'm not drunk yet," she told me drink her drink which I did. I took a few sip. She wanted me to get drunk. She even pulled my hat down, put her face closer to mine-- giving me invitation to kiss her. I should've said "I'm trying so hard not to kiss you right now," but my mind just blanked out after a few drinks. That's why I vote not to drink.
Author:  Ius [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:37 am ]
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I think the whole drinking not drinking thing depends on where you are going and what chicks you are after

I'm at uni and in my experience during the week (student nights) you need to be drunk, if not tipsy. This is because a vast majority of the girls out are also drunk, and it becomes increasingly harder to communicate with them. Plus you can come across as having taken advantage of her.



On the weekend you have more choice as to where to go, chilled out bars can be hit etc places where the music is low enough to allow you to have a conversation and generally the chicks are sober enough to interporate and understand what you are saying.

Not absolute but a rule of thumb in my eyes.

I'm Irish and if I tell anyone that I am not drinking again they just roll their eyes and laugh

:( Its a curse :lol:
Author:  Rishi [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:38 am ]
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I'm glad this ended up being a DHV story for you. I think the worst thing about the drinking in this situation is that it caused to miss obvious signs of interest. If I met a guy at a club/ bar who didn't drink at all, I might think he was a recovering alcoholic or a straight edge kid or at least had a stick up his ass- generally, someone I might want to avoid, but it's your call. I guess as long as you moderate your drinking and go into a situation like this with a positive, funny attitude, you can modify what you say to each situation.

I don't know how this story demonstrates value, but I think it could make for a great opinion opener, especially if you make it about a "friend."
Author:  Buria [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:07 am ]
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I suggest NOT drinking while learning, trying new things, attempting to build state, but I do not understand the precise reason to not drink at all. Drinking to a point where you FEEL GOOD, isn't a bad thing. Anything where you start to experience anything more than mild "Everything is a blast, I'm having a great time, and woops, I did just hit my foot going up those stairs." is in my opinion excessive and detrimental to game.

You're out to have fun, and for most adults having a few drinks in a club, or over dinner, or while doing damn near anything else, is just part of having fun, and being social. Learn moderation, and be sober by the end of the night to be able to walk home, think clearly, and manage a conversation, or give clear directions. Drink early, stop drinking halfway into the night, and spend the rest of the evening enjoying the buzz until it's gone.
Author:  Chief [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:51 pm ]
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What does "Not Drinking" mean? I live in New Orleans. I don't get it. :?: :?: :?:

lulz
Author:  Buria [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:21 pm ]
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For a New Orleanian not drinking means stopping before friends have to piggyback you to the car.
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