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The same day and within the same hour is coming off as too needy for me....get some abundance of women so you aren't "concentrating" on her too much.

I say match her "rhythm", if you will, of contact....if she waits so long to text you back, don't text immediately after her text....respond in the same time.

And as always, just remember who the prize is...you.

If you want to you could always do the divorce routine....as seen here

2-vt654.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

"this one way texting isn't going to work for me anymore....we're getting a divorce...".....daddada...after a few days or such. Of course, do this in calibration of how much rapport/comfort you have with her (I'm assuming you have a good amount since you mentioned already doing C&F). As style states...don't be afraid to lose them. There are plenty of fish in the sea.

I don't think you should do nothing....because it could just be she was busy that time and couldn't answer back immediately....

....before I leave any girl though alone completely, I always try to experiment with different social attraction methods...learning along the way and improving.....and if nothing comes of it....it didn't take too much energy and effort of my own. (i.e. sending a text message that I've never have or would've thought of before.)

Hope that helps. Let me know how it goes.

Back up a bit . . .

You were not "needy" at all; what you did borders "creepy". She gave you IOI's throughout that night and instead of "rescuing" her from some guy she had no interest in, you stuck your tail between your legs and just froze. Then after the whole escapade, you're firing off texts "as if you dig her". She's on to you . . . you are either a scarety cat or you are an opportunist who trolls for lonely chicks. (In her mind)

You were already a bit of a wuss at the party and now, you text her and you invite her to hang out with you and your BUDDIES? Come on . . .

There is no such thing as a "gentleman". Woman don't go crazy and wet for the guy who goes, "Well, I am a gentleman so I will allow my brother to fuck you first. Good? OK, may I take my turn next? I don't mind a cum filled vagina at all . . .ho ho ho, I'm a gentleman."

No . . . women DESIRE . . .no, they LUST over the guy who FIGHTS for them. They want to be the prize. They want to be conquered (actually, a girl just told me over msn a few days ago how she loves the way I CONQUER her
vagina)

So you should have been a MAN at the party and just flicked those junior varsity guys off . . . I don't care if he was army, navy, or a loyal member of the girl scouts. You dig a girl and you go DIG HER DEEP! There's no other way! No girl wishes to a hand-off . . .

The party is now over but it doesn't mean that it's too late for you to start DRIVING this thing along. Don't wuss out by "texting" her stuff like, "Eh. . . you want to hang out with me and all of my buddies?

Call her . . . and just copy the lines I wrote up in that "friends" thread that was written up recently. . . YOU are the man. SHE is a girl . . .

SciPhy: this one way texting thing (yadda yadda) divorce (yadda)
HB9: Oo0oh, so its like that? Smile

win.
epic
fucking
win.

SP,

Ha ha . . . you're no creep but you were passive. Putting her in all of your Internet groups is a "passive" demonstration of your attraction to her. This isn't cocky nor is it funny. Don't be afraid to turn up that cocky/funny dial to 11.

So far, your "push" was to ignore her with that "I'm a cool kid so I'll just leave you alone like you don't even matter." Method.

Your "pull" was a drag of your mouse to put her in face book and an invitation to hang out with your buddies. These are barely "tugs" right? Instead, imagine yourself verbally manhandling her. You're "verbally" going to grab her with your meat hooks and shake her back and forth. . . she won't even know what hit her. It works something like:

You: (Say nothing, just stare . . . smile . . . nod approvingly)

Her: WTF? (She'll laugh nervously too)

You: You're looking hot . . . you turn me on! . . . [PULL]

Her: What? Get outta here . . . (or if she's more experienced and you're in some club or party, she might go . . . "I'm not having sex with you OK?")

You: Woh, woh . . . slow down, who do you think I am? I am NOT going to have sex with you . . .no way . . . [PUSH]

Her: blah, blah, blah

You: Well, no I take that back. Maybe after the third date, I'll consider having sex with you. I am a gentleman . . . [PULL]

Her: blah, blah, blah. (Doesn't matter what the hell she says as long as she's still standing there. If she's still standing there, it's because SHE LIKES YOU and the conversation you're having)

You: First date, I'll show up with flowers, chocolate . . . I'm very traditional. At best, you'll get a kiss on the cheek from me on the first date. [I don't know, is this a push or pull?]

Her: blah, blah

You: Then of course after the third date, we'll get freaky. [pull]

Her: blah, blah (or in the most extreme case, "we ARE NEVER going to get freaky")

You: Wait, are you . . . Oh . . . you're right. We are definitely not going to get freaky. Why, that's crazy! I would never get freaky with you either. [Push]

Her: ???

You: OK, OK . . .Because you're conservative, maybe I'll wait until our 5th date. Yeah . . . 5th date . . . it sounds right and it feels right. We'll go on our 5th date, AND THEN we'll fuck our brains out. It'll be the longest I've waited but I can do this for you. [PULL]

Her: Blah, blah . . .(By now, even the bitchiest girls just go along with it. Most will go along with this "script" right after you begin)

This is an example of pushing and pulling with C&F. This works because you're talking about YOU and HER. 3rd dates, 5th dates . . . even though the whole thing is a joke, you're telling her that you're offering more than a "wham bam" (without really telling her). The entire exchange is sexual. And as you do this, you want to get closer. When you tell her sexual stuff, you could whisper in her ear. When you tell her that you will only "kiss her on the cheek" you go, "like this", and give her that innocent peck on the cheek. You just BLANKET her with this stuff. And this is MUCH different than being the social "attention getter" of the crowd. This is the type of stuff that gets girls grabbing your hand and dragging you away quietly to an empty room.

Author:	SciPhy [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:19 am ]
Post subject:	Newbie Field Report/What the Fuck Now/Encountering a Natural
St. Patty's day: Three girls (HB7.6, HB6, and the other a future lesbian in my opinion), stereotypical AFC, myself (an improving AFC), are eating outside a burger joint, after a night of rock climbing, the HB7.6 insisted I join. If that sounded like the beginning of a bad joke, forgive me, for the only punchline is my confusion. Anyway, I had been running experimental game on the HB7 since two days before, and still has not stopped talking to me, and giving me IOIs, but I had no intention of getting intimate with her in the first place, and thus have no idea why I used C&F on her in the first place. Either way, I walk into the burger joint to check on my order and make eye contact with this HB9, but like a scared idiot, I don't approach. She would have been my first actual approach considering I knew the HB7 though the other AFC beforehand from school. On the way out, I run into Robby. Robby is the definition of a natural. I knew him when i was a sophmore and he was a Senior. We were as close of friends as a 15 year old and an 18 year old could have really expected to be. Unfortunately, I hadnt seen the guy since he moved to Flagstaff, which is about 6 hours away from my beloved Phoenix. His being a drama student may have been the force behind his captivating game. By the end of the night, he had the HB9, her friends, some strangers, and my friends eating out of the palm of his hands. He was so good that I and the other AFC seemed just as attracted to him as the girls, in what I assume was a much less sexual manner. We ended up going to his house to smoke hookah. I made sure to get a ride with him alone so as to ask him about his strategy. "How the fuck did you do that?", I asked. He said it was all just acting, and losing yourself in the moment. I'm not paraphrasing, and needless to say, this was not enough. I sat there for a good 10 minutes contemplating that before he interrupted by moping with a, "What are you thinking about?". He knew what I was thinking about. Consequently, he expanded on the idea to include that it was all about loving one's self and how people love people who love themselves. He also said that since Im still in high school, this will all be a journey for me, considering insecurity is the norm in High School. A much more satisfying answer. I am paraphrasing that one. When we got to the house, one of my old friends who was on a 2week break from the Army was all over the HB9, whom by this point revealed that we'd met before. Army boy was all over her because, her knew her too. She didn't seem to enjoy his excessive kino and lack of subtlety at all. She kept sending me IOIs from across the room and engaging me in conversation. I wanted to isolate and close with her, but I didnt want to betray Army boy, so i let her go. Unfortunately, I went retarded. I sent her a message on myspace and added her on facebook on the same day. In the message I did what I thought was flirting, which resulting in my getting a number, but my inability to recieve a reply from her because (i think) i kept on playing C&F too late into the game. So: She gave me her number Within that same hour i sent a text inviting her to tag along with myself and some other people. I got no reply. this is the what the fuck now part.

Author:	Marvel [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:36 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Newbie Field Report/What the Fuck Now/Encountering a Nat
The same day and within the same hour is coming off as too needy for me....get some abundance of women so you aren't "concentrating" on her too much. I say match her "rhythm", if you will, of contact....if she waits so long to text you back, don't text immediately after her text....respond in the same time. And as always, just remember who the prize is...you.

Author:	SciPhy [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Newbie Field Report/What the Fuck Now/Encountering a Nat
Quote: The same day and within the same hour is coming off as too needy for me....get some abundance of women so you aren't "concentrating" on her too much. I say match her "rhythm", if you will, of contact....if she waits so long to text you back, don't text immediately after her text....respond in the same time. And as always, just remember who the prize is...you. Yeah, I kinda went haywire there. I think it came off as super needy. And I havent texted her since she didnt reply, should i just take the prize away from her completely, so to speak?

Author:	Marvel [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:54 am ]
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If you want to you could always do the divorce routine....as seen here 2-vt654.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 "this one way texting isn't going to work for me anymore....we're getting a divorce...".....daddada...after a few days or such. Of course, do this in calibration of how much rapport/comfort you have with her (I'm assuming you have a good amount since you mentioned already doing C&F). As style states...don't be afraid to lose them. There are plenty of fish in the sea. I don't think you should do nothing....because it could just be she was busy that time and couldn't answer back immediately.... ....before I leave any girl though alone completely, I always try to experiment with different social attraction methods...learning along the way and improving.....and if nothing comes of it....it didn't take too much energy and effort of my own. (i.e. sending a text message that I've never have or would've thought of before.) Hope that helps. Let me know how it goes.

Author:	SciPhy [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:29 am ]
Post subject:
Quote: If you want to you could always do the divorce routine....as seen here 2-vt654.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 "this one way texting isn't going to work for me anymore....we're getting a divorce...".....daddada...after a few days or such. Of course, do this in calibration of how much rapport/comfort you have with her (I'm assuming you have a good amount since you mentioned already doing C&F). As style states...don't be afraid to lose them. There are plenty of fish in the sea. I don't think you should do nothing....because it could just be she was busy that time and couldn't answer back immediately.... ....before I leave any girl though alone completely, I always try to experiment with different social attraction methods...learning along the way and improving.....and if nothing comes of it....it didn't take too much energy and effort of my own. (i.e. sending a text message that I've never have or would've thought of before.) Hope that helps. Let me know how it goes. oh! thanks ill be sure to update you, man

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Author:	SciPhy [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:14 am ]
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SciPhy: this one way texting thing (yadda yadda) divorce (yadda) HB9: Oo0oh, so its like that? win. epic fucking win.

Author:	prince_capri [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:09 am ]
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lol..Love the reply. WP guys.

Author:	Loso [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:56 pm ]
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gotta try this divorce routine, gonna do it tonight.

Author:	kasabi [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:17 pm ]
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Back up a bit . . . You were not "needy" at all; what you did borders "creepy". She gave you IOI's throughout that night and instead of "rescuing" her from some guy she had no interest in, you stuck your tail between your legs and just froze. Then after the whole escapade, you're firing off texts "as if you dig her". She's on to you . . . you are either a scarety cat or you are an opportunist who trolls for lonely chicks. (In her mind) You were already a bit of a wuss at the party and now, you text her and you invite her to hang out with you and your BUDDIES? Come on . . . There is no such thing as a "gentleman". Woman don't go crazy and wet for the guy who goes, "Well, I am a gentleman so I will allow my brother to fuck you first. Good? OK, may I take my turn next? I don't mind a cum filled vagina at all . . .ho ho ho, I'm a gentleman." No . . . women DESIRE . . .no, they LUST over the guy who FIGHTS for them. They want to be the prize. They want to be conquered (actually, a girl just told me over msn a few days ago how she loves the way I CONQUER her vagina) So you should have been a MAN at the party and just flicked those junior varsity guys off . . . I don't care if he was army, navy, or a loyal member of the girl scouts. You dig a girl and you go DIG HER DEEP! There's no other way! No girl wishes to a hand-off . . . The party is now over but it doesn't mean that it's too late for you to start DRIVING this thing along. Don't wuss out by "texting" her stuff like, "Eh. . . you want to hang out with me and all of my buddies? Call her . . . and just copy the lines I wrote up in that "friends" thread that was written up recently. . . YOU are the man. SHE is a girl . . .

Author:	SciPhy [ Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:15 pm ]
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Quote: Back up a bit . . . You were not "needy" at all; what you did borders "creepy". She gave you IOI's throughout that night and instead of "rescuing" her from some guy she had no interest in, you stuck your tail between your legs and just froze. Then after the whole escapade, you're firing off texts "as if you dig her". She's on to you . . . you are either a scarety cat or you are an opportunist who trolls for lonely chicks. (In her mind) You were already a bit of a wuss at the party and now, you text her and you invite her to hang out with you and your BUDDIES? Come on . . . There is no such thing as a "gentleman". Woman don't go crazy and wet for the guy who goes, "Well, I am a gentleman so I will allow my brother to fuck you first. Good? OK, may I take my turn next? I don't mind a cum filled vagina at all . . .ho ho ho, I'm a gentleman." No . . . women DESIRE . . .no, they LUST over the guy who FIGHTS for them. They want to be the prize. They want to be conquered (actually, a girl just told me over msn a few days ago how she loves the way I CONQUER her vagina) So you should have been a MAN at the party and just flicked those junior varsity guys off . . . I don't care if he was army, navy, or a loyal member of the girl scouts. You dig a girl and you go DIG HER DEEP! There's no other way! No girl wishes to a hand-off . . . The party is now over but it doesn't mean that it's too late for you to start DRIVING this thing along. Don't wuss out by "texting" her stuff like, "Eh. . . you want to hang out with me and all of my buddies? Call her . . . and just copy the lines I wrote up in that "friends" thread that was written up recently. . . YOU are the man. SHE is a girl . . . HAHA! Not to suck your balls our anything, but you're my favorite artist on this forum. I'm being a being a wishful cunt instead of proactive. Well fuck me, I thought was being more "aggressive" than I would have in the past. Instead, I acted like a passive-aggressive sex creep.

Author:	Marvel [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:30 am ]
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Quote: SciPhy: this one way texting thing (yadda yadda) divorce (yadda) HB9: Oo0oh, so its like that? Smile win. epic fucking win. I am so so proud....(wipes tears away)..... Oh, and Kasabi's most def right....I guess I just wanted to "ease" you in and wasn't showin you tough enough love. Next time, I shall....with the wrath of the sex gods!!! In the halls of Valhalla, where the brave will fuck forever!

Author:	kasabi [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:06 am ]
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SP, Ha ha . . . you're no creep but you were passive. Putting her in all of your Internet groups is a "passive" demonstration of your attraction to her. This isn't cocky nor is it funny. Don't be afraid to turn up that cocky/funny dial to 11. So far, your "push" was to ignore her with that "I'm a cool kid so I'll just leave you alone like you don't even matter." Method. Your "pull" was a drag of your mouse to put her in face book and an invitation to hang out with your buddies. These are barely "tugs" right? Instead, imagine yourself verbally manhandling her. You're "verbally" going to grab her with your meat hooks and shake her back and forth. . . she won't even know what hit her. It works something like: You: (Say nothing, just stare . . . smile . . . nod approvingly) Her: WTF? (She'll laugh nervously too) You: You're looking hot . . . you turn me on! . . . [PULL] Her: What? Get outta here . . . (or if she's more experienced and you're in some club or party, she might go . . . "I'm not having sex with you OK?") You: Woh, woh . . . slow down, who do you think I am? I am NOT going to have sex with you . . .no way . . . [PUSH] Her: blah, blah, blah You: Well, no I take that back. Maybe after the third date, I'll consider having sex with you. I am a gentleman . . . [PULL] Her: blah, blah, blah. (Doesn't matter what the hell she says as long as she's still standing there. If she's still standing there, it's because SHE LIKES YOU and the conversation you're having) You: First date, I'll show up with flowers, chocolate . . . I'm very traditional. At best, you'll get a kiss on the cheek from me on the first date. [I don't know, is this a push or pull?] Her: blah, blah You: Then of course after the third date, we'll get freaky. [pull] Her: blah, blah (or in the most extreme case, "we ARE NEVER going to get freaky") You: Wait, are you . . . Oh . . . you're right. We are definitely not going to get freaky. Why, that's crazy! I would never get freaky with you either. [Push] Her: ??? You: OK, OK . . .Because you're conservative, maybe I'll wait until our 5th date. Yeah . . . 5th date . . . it sounds right and it feels right. We'll go on our 5th date, AND THEN we'll fuck our brains out. It'll be the longest I've waited but I can do this for you. [PULL] Her: Blah, blah . . .(By now, even the bitchiest girls just go along with it. Most will go along with this "script" right after you begin) This is an example of pushing and pulling with C&F. This works because you're talking about YOU and HER. 3rd dates, 5th dates . . . even though the whole thing is a joke, you're telling her that you're offering more than a "wham bam" (without really telling her). The entire exchange is sexual. And as you do this, you want to get closer. When you tell her sexual stuff, you could whisper in her ear. When you tell her that you will only "kiss her on the cheek" you go, "like this", and give her that innocent peck on the cheek. You just BLANKET her with this stuff. And this is MUCH different than being the social "attention getter" of the crowd. This is the type of stuff that gets girls grabbing your hand and dragging you away quietly to an empty room.

Author:	SciPhy [ Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:40 am ]
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Quote: SP, Ha ha . . . you're no creep but you were passive. Putting her in all of your Internet groups is a "passive" demonstration of your attraction to her. This isn't cocky nor is it funny. Don't be afraid to turn up that cocky/funny dial to 11. So far, your "push" was to ignore her with that "I'm a cool kid so I'll just leave you alone like you don't even matter." Method. Your "pull" was a drag of your mouse to put her in face book and an invitation to hang out with your buddies. These are barely "tugs" right? Instead, imagine yourself verbally manhandling her. You're "verbally" going to grab her with your meat hooks and shake her back and forth. . . she won't even know what hit her. It works something like: You: (Say nothing, just stare . . . smile . . . nod approvingly) Her: WTF? (She'll laugh nervously too) You: You're looking hot . . . you turn me on! . . . [PULL] Her: What? Get outta here . . . (or if she's more experienced and you're in some club or party, she might go . . . "I'm not having sex with you OK?") You: Woh, woh . . . slow down, who do you think I am? I am NOT going to have sex with you . . .no way . . . [PUSH] Her: blah, blah, blah You: Well, no I take that back. Maybe after the third date, I'll consider having sex with you. I am a gentleman . . . [PULL] Her: blah, blah, blah. (Doesn't matter what the hell she says as long as she's still standing there. If she's still standing there, it's because SHE LIKES YOU and the conversation you're having) You: First date, I'll show up with flowers, chocolate . . . I'm very traditional. At best, you'll get a kiss on the cheek from me on the first date. [I don't know, is this a push or pull?] Her: blah, blah You: Then of course after the third date, we'll get freaky. [pull] Her: blah, blah (or in the most extreme case, "we ARE NEVER going to get freaky") You: Wait, are you . . . Oh . . . you're right. We are definitely not going to get freaky. Why, that's crazy! I would never get freaky with you either. [Push] Her: ??? You: OK, OK . . .Because you're conservative, maybe I'll wait until our 5th date. Yeah . . . 5th date . . . it sounds right and it feels right. We'll go on our 5th date, AND THEN we'll fuck our brains out. It'll be the longest I've waited but I can do this for you. [PULL] Her: Blah, blah . . .(By now, even the bitchiest girls just go along with it. Most will go along with this "script" right after you begin) This is an example of pushing and pulling with C&F. This works because you're talking about YOU and HER. 3rd dates, 5th dates . . . even though the whole thing is a joke, you're telling her that you're offering more than a "wham bam" (without really telling her). The entire exchange is sexual. And as you do this, you want to get closer. When you tell her sexual stuff, you could whisper in her ear. When you tell her that you will only "kiss her on the cheek" you go, "like this", and give her that innocent peck on the cheek. You just BLANKET her with this stuff. And this is MUCH different than being the social "attention getter" of the crowd. This is the type of stuff that gets girls grabbing your hand and dragging you away quietly to an empty room. Oh! Wow, I had no idea being that overt was LITERALLY the way to go. For some reason, I saw the balls to the wall examples as just that, extreme hypothetical situations. Apparently not, Im going in for a field test.

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