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Author:  LondonLatino30 [ Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Gameing unatractive girls in order to gain confidence??
What are your views on this?

I know a few ladies that I know for sure I could fuck easily but I don't feel really attracted to them, but as I am starting in the Game and in the process of getting more confidence approaching girls I though it would be a good way to start practicing seduction skils and specially how to lead relationships and then gradully start raising the standars.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Dan
Author:  JSmooth [ Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gameing unatractive girls in order to gain confidence??
Quote:
What are your views on this?

I know a few ladies that I know for sure I could fuck easily but I don't feel really attracted to them, but as I am starting in the Game and in the process of getting more confidence approaching girls I though it would be a good way to start practicing seduction skils and specially how to lead relationships and then gradully start raising the standars.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Dan
Many guys I know do this, so they get the process down in their minds, and just turn up the heat gradually on the HB rating scale so to speak. Just be honest about what you want to these girls and don't lead them on.

These HB6's and HB7's can make for some good friends, and social circle for later when you go after hotter girls though. Don't burn bridges. :)
Author:  Solomon II [ Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:40 pm ]
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Why do so many guys ask this? It's a bullshit idea. You'll only be a little less afraid when it comes to girls you really like. Think about it this way... if you wanna fire a large caliber handgun but you're scared, and decide to warm up by using a 9mm for a while first, when it comes to using the big one you're still gonna be scared to use the fuckin thing. But after you get that first shot off, you're like "that wasn't so bad!"... and it woulda been the exact same if you had skipped the warmup. So, if you know how to hold it properly and absorb the recoil, why bother warming up with something that doesn't interest you when you can just suck it up and go for it? Which would be the more rewarding experience?

You're not gonna learn shit from girls you aren't genuinely attracted to, and get this... just because a girl doesn't look like she's hot shit, it doesn't mean she's automatically gonna reciprocate your interest and play along with whatever it is you're doing. If you're not her type you will still get rejected, and at your early stage where this probably matters to you, you're gonna feel like a fucking idiot if that happens. Being rejected by a girl you really like is easy, cos she doesn't even know you and it's her problem... there are plenty more and you can be glad she idn't waste any time or string you along. You can't apply that kind of logic to a girl you aren't attracted to; it's gonna hit your self esteem pretty hard. It's nonsensical. Start talking to girls you're afraid to talk to. It's the fastest way to desensetise yourself. Get rejected by them on purpose if that's what you're afraid of, so you can see how little it matters.

If you don't believe me, go out and talk to girls you aren't really hot for. Talk to a bunch, see what happens. You'll get turned down by some and you'll fuck others later that evening. Others, you'll meet up with and you won't really click, and you won't really wanna see again. The same goes for girls you are attracted to, so why in the fuck are you wanting to waste your time on those you don't like the look of? You gotta stop putting them in leagues and shit and thinking about them like they're different. Girls are girls, they're human just like you. They all have the same insecurities, they can be quirky or clumsy or downright silly. You're afraid to discover the humanity that lies beneath her exterior just because the exterior is prettier... you gotta realise how ridiculous that is.
Author:  regulus [ Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:54 pm ]
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Quote:
Why do so many guys ask this? It's a bullshit idea. You'll only be a little less afraid when it comes to girls you really like. Think about it this way... if you wanna fire a large caliber handgun but you're scared, and decide to warm up by using a 9mm for a while first, when it comes to using the big one you're still gonna be scared to use the fuckin thing. But after you get that first shot off, you're like "that wasn't so bad!"... and it woulda been the exact same if you had skipped the warmup. So, if you know how to hold it properly and absorb the recoil, why bother warming up with something that doesn't interest you when you can just suck it up and go for it? Which would be the more rewarding experience?

You're not gonna learn shit from girls you aren't genuinely attracted to, and get this... just because a girl doesn't look like she's hot shit, it doesn't mean she's automatically gonna reciprocate your interest and play along with whatever it is you're doing. If you're not her type you will still get rejected, and at your early stage where this probably matters to you, you're gonna feel like a fucking idiot if that happens. Being rejected by a girl you really like is easy, cos she doesn't even know you and it's her problem... there are plenty more and you can be glad she idn't waste any time or string you along. You can't apply that kind of logic to a girl you aren't attracted to; it's gonna hit your self esteem pretty hard. It's nonsensical. Start talking to girls you're afraid to talk to. It's the fastest way to desensetise yourself. Get rejected by them on purpose if that's what you're afraid of, so you can see how little it matters.

If you don't believe me, go out and talk to girls you aren't really hot for. Talk to a bunch, see what happens. You'll get turned down by some and you'll fuck others later that evening. Others, you'll meet up with and you won't really click, and you won't really wanna see again. The same goes for girls you are attracted to, so why in the fuck are you wanting to waste your time on those you don't like the look of? You gotta stop putting them in leagues and shit and thinking about them like they're different. Girls are girls, they're human just like you. They all have the same insecurities, they can be quirky or clumsy or downright silly. You're afraid to discover the humanity that lies beneath her exterior just because the exterior is prettier... you gotta realise how ridiculous that is.
well said. i agree!
Author:  hurley509 [ Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:18 am ]
Post subject:  ay
yeh Ive entered sets of less attractive girls thinking, 'il just enter the set, run through the material and then leave when something better opens up close by'... and have ended up getting with one of the unattractive girls simply because i saw the escalation window and I was gaming. lol... im telling you, theres been a couple of girls of got with that arent even worth gaming! but then again theres been some that have been OH SO WORTH IT! in future i wont be kissin ugmoes..lol
Author:  DontBeFickle [ Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:14 am ]
Post subject: 
you work out at the gym
your max bench is 300
do you
A. jump to 300?
OR B. warm the fuck up to it?

yeah hurley if you want easy confidence deff try it out
Author:  LondonLatino30 [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:47 am ]
Post subject: 
Quality advice, thanks guys,

I can see two different opinions here, both good so I think I will go for a middle point, it is to build confidence gradually but I should start going for girls I am attracted to
Author:  Jaybot [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:08 pm ]
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dammit just lost my reply so I will do a quick one instead.

I don't bother running game on ugly women as there is no point most are happy enough with me just chatting and not bothering to put effort in, I see this as I want them as friends and they see it as that.

As for practicing why not just practice on attractive women, you will learn quicker and may actually get a result you are pleased with. It is not as if there is a massive shortage of attractive women to game.

Finally in terms of practicing for the big thing I see it as bullshit, do you really have to protect your ego to the extent of practicing on unattractive women just incase the big scary pretty girl says no?
It is also a bad idea as your motivation will be at different levels so, if you manage to not freak yourself out by thinking "this is it the moment I have been training for etc" you will probably fall at the next hurdle of being too needy because you actually care about the outcome.
Just my 2 cents
Author:  Jaybot [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:09 pm ]
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dammit just lost my reply so I will do a quick one instead.

I don't bother running game on ugly women as there is no point most are happy enough with me just chatting and not bothering to put effort in, I see this as I want them as friends and they see it as that.

As for practicing why not just practice on attractive women, you will learn quicker and may actually get a result you are pleased with. It is not as if there is a massive shortage of attractive women to game.

Finally in terms of practicing for the big thing I see it as bullshit, do you really have to protect your ego to the extent of practicing on unattractive women just incase the big scary pretty girl says no?
It is also a bad idea as your motivation will be at different levels so, if you manage to not freak yourself out by thinking "this is it the moment I have been training for etc" you will probably fall at the next hurdle of being too needy because you actually care about the outcome.
Just my 2 cents
Author:  Fin [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:10 pm ]
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Some quick hits for you guys.

1. Unattractive women are not easier than hot women. Check gunwitch for that similarly unattractive women tend to be insecure and shy and will bail on you alot. In extreme cases they can be very bitter about men.

Why would they be eaiser to game?

Either women are attracted to you or they are not! Thiers no half way about it. Thinking a hb6 has lower standards than a hb 9 is just childish and assumes the less good looking the woman the more desperate she is. Which is not the case.



2. I do not sarge to practise I sarge to meet beautiful and fun women, practise is an absoloute-fucking-waste of my time and of YOURS!

I infact rarely approach right now, maybe once a fortnight, thats it. And thats all I need, and in the past couple of months my game has come on leaps and bounds.

3. If you want to get better, then sarge in a real enviroment, with women who you are attracted to and who you WANT to close.
Author:  Enigma87 [ Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:21 pm ]
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im not disagreeing with what people have previously said. This is what iv found, running game on around people your not attracted to is a good way to create social.

BUT - you can get bunny boilers, can destroy social.

SPAM i have my HB8-9 salsa teacher adding all my freinds on facebook, turning up to all the parties im at too... not cool.
she is hot though that wasnt practice she was older and i thought lets see if this works.

Running game with WP's aint good, remember kids fucking a fat girl is like riding a scooter, its alot of fun up until your mates find out. :)

I dont see sarging sessions and everyday seperate now, game is a lifestyle, and if im living the life shouldnt i be running game on everyone. from the shop assistant you havnt met before, greet them with the 'bench pressed the world' smile. the amog on the bus. make sure he dosnt step in front of you. to your work, school or paid, that it dosnt control you and in that place of work you are the best you can be.

when your talking to a girl dosnt matter if shes butters, or HB9.9 beauties common, and her looks shouldnt matter. if shes cool then shes cool, if shes hot but boring id rather speak to the girl whos interesting, i wont fuck her later, but for inner game i know iv acted better, which will carry over to the next day.

every holes a goal, but not every goal is worth celebrating.
Author:  tiemnao [ Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:51 pm ]
Post subject: 
I just tried hitting on gay guys for fun the entire evening. Turned out to be more stressful than anything. For me stress goes like:

gay guys > very ugly girls > very attractive girls > average looking girls

Pretending I'm interested when I'm not is harder than pretending I'm not interested when I am :lol: With average girls I'm interested enough to hit on them, but not so much that I care if it works or not, it's just fun and relaxing.
Author:  chriscalo123 [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:05 pm ]
Post subject: 
Whoa, ok like everything else in life, there's a BALANCE.

What you're doing is GREAT but you can't go to extremes. Like that guy's gym analogy... if you start lifting 1lb weights, you won't get anywhere.

So don't hit on ugly girls.

However, if you're shy (and who isn't), then it's a great idea to talk to HB5-6-7's. This will help you build up skill, confidence, etc.

Then feel free to go after whoever you want. Warming up is a nice and well proven way of getting rid of your anxiety.
Author:  HachiShiro [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:50 pm ]
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I found it helped at first to chat to the easy to talk to ones. Girls on their own, or girls with something extremely obvious about them or around them to talk about.
Author:  hade [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:54 pm ]
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I don't think this will help you much. You need to fight your AA head on. You can't beat your nervousness if you don't have it.

Maybe drink a couple of pints before approaching HB's. Then drop it to one pint. Then do it sober as a judge.

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