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Author:  i_am_tiger [ Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Speech improvement??
Guys can you suggest me some material which will help me improve my conversations in general.
And i also noticed that sometimes i stammer and tend to spit a lot when speaking..is this out of anxiety?Also my English is pretty good but sometimes during a conversation my sentence formations get fucked up.

I recently got Zen of screaming cos a friend told me that it'll help me improve my voice overall havent tried it out as of yet..have any of you guys used it?
Author:  vice22 [ Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:49 pm ]
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hey, look im new to this whole scene, but when i was 15 i had no game, i was chubby and i was always the guy the girls saw as a really close friend, plus i was a virgin, i was shy to speak to people at tills when i bought cloths etc, if i saw a hb i would look the other way because i felt like i wasnt good enough, and my speech lacked confidence,

this all changed when i started studying body language and the whole "you think your the man, you are the man" style of play aswell as starting boxing, and as my confidence grew, not only was i seeing more female attention, i began to notice my voice and speech grew with every exprience, now if im going to the club or just out shopping, i talk to the bouncers or even the old ladies behind the tills and give them a fly by compliment,

what im trying to say is that speech, like almost every aspect of the whole pua scene, is down to confidence, and it is well stated that confidence is just a piece of mind...

but again, iv been on this site for 3 days now, and have only just started reading the game which has bought me into this whole scene... "you believe... you acheive" is my very own moto, use it and reap the rewards my friend
Author:  expat_of_love [ Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:18 am ]
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The thing is that you only think you have confidence. The truth is that few do (no PUA's do). If you did you wouldn't be chasing after anything. The entire concept of chasing after something is rooted in insecurity.

The problem has nothing to do with speech or some chubby girl. It has everything to do with living on the outside. Not knowing who you are. Being driven by friends, family, and society. You have to erase all of that before you have real confidence. I am not a monk, but the monastic life is based on some hard truths.

First find yourself. Spend time alone. Divorce yourself from your so called friends. Step back and examine things. A confident man doesn't look for friends or "game" anything. He has no ego and doesn't have an avatar that shows him standing with a cheesy stripper.

In American terms this means that you would identify with pretty much nothing but who you are. No frats, no flags, no clics, nothing! When you reach this confident level you will be the one attracting. It takes time though. Strangest thing is when you reach this point you won't really be concerned about having lots of so called friends or girls. You will find an evening alone to be as enjoyable as an evening at a club or disco.
Author:  Cinnamon Spice [ Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:00 am ]
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Well for conversation alone I'd recommend Juggler's books, they're solid gold.

As for speaking confidently, see if you can't take a class or something. Toastmasters, debate or any real speech course will do wonders for you.

Cinnamon
Author:  ZEGlass [ Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:47 am ]
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Well for conversation alone I'd recommend Juggler's books, they're solid gold.

As for speaking confidently, see if you can't take a class or something. Toastmasters, debate or any real speech course will do wonders for you.

Cinnamon
I can get behind Toastmasters. I've recently joined up with the local club and it's pretty fun. Meetings are kind of like an etiquette dinner for public speakers. They seem really formal, but everybody's just there to enjoy themselves. It's already helping me to realize some of my own conversational strengths. Even if you don't join a club for it, try practicing to speak, just to get your pacing, diction, tonality, etc. down. I like to recite the Preamble to the Constitution to the bathroom mirror. :o

Expat, I might give qualified agreement to what you've said. I think that it's probably true that few people, especially PUA's, have much in the way of real confidence. While "chasing something" might well be contrary to confidence, knowing what one wants and training to acquire it definitely IS confident.
Author:  i_am_tiger [ Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:12 pm ]
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Yup i have tried that and has helped me a lot,i used to be really really fat and it took me a lot of determination and hard work to reduce my weight(im still a bit overweight though) but in a much better shape now and yes i think i have almost reached the stage where im indifferent towards the reactions of other people however that paradoxically is my sticking point..
you see im so ignorant about the rest of the world that im totally indulged in my own self-obsessed world and im afraid that im gonna end up as a geek now that i dont find the "need" to be surrounded by people all the time.
Well practicing in front of the mirror does sound like a good idead,il give it a try
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