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Author:  metallica [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:33 pm ]
Post subject:  omg i need help guys
hey everybody im new to this forum and i thing i really need help with this one i went to a club with my two friends and i see this girl watching me all the time so she comes close to me and dances like crazy rubbing herself on me she had the greatest titties ever so my friend walks up to her without me knowing and she said to her that i liked her without a second thought she approaches and chears with me damn she was hot so we start dancing hugging touching and everything i asked her some questions name where from why your friend its not coming to get to know her and i dont know what else so we continiu dancing rubbing and everything and there you see it a fool dancing with a girl with an emparasing fake smile smilling fake all the time like a dork have nothing else to say so before the club closed i asked her number and she said ok write it i got the number and when the club closed i went to her like a fool and asked her are you gonna kiss me or what omg what was i thinking and she got serius and turn her back on me i talk to her about other things and she replyed back i dont know what to do now guys text her what to say heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp she is really hot and if you like tell my my mistakes i was so streess out stupid ass
Author:  tweeby [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:19 pm ]
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Firstly, try writing sentences with paragraphs and full stops it makes it easier to freakin read.

Second, all your initial interactions are good. So relax. She was into you, you know that. Your problem was you didn't know how to react to it and that's why you're kicking yourself.

You did well to number close her. And the line:
Quote:
Are you gonna kiss me or what?
Isn't actually a fuck up. Said with the correct intonation (cocky funny) and a lot of kino before hand I could see a confident alpha male carrying that one off.

However, I'm assuming you said it rather seriously, or even aggressively because you were frustrated, without any kino or alpha male behaviour before hand, so there was only one way she was going to take it regardless of how into you she was: - "AFC wanting to get laid." But at least you said it, you put your balls on the line and for that I salute you.

I like Sinn's kissing routine. I'm paraphrasing this but it goes something like:


You: Hey I wanna play a game with you but you gotta swear you won't break the rules.
Her: Hmm... OK what's the rules?
You: You gotta pinky swear first.
You: Ok basically its called the almost kiss... (wait a couple of seconds to build curiousity)
Her: What's that?
You: Basically, you get up really close to the person you want to kiss and just look into their eyes without actually kissing. (look at her into her right eye, this leads straight to the heart line ha ha) If YOU kiss me you loose. (by saying YOU, it subconsciously puts her in the frame that she wants to kiss you ha ha).

Then you both do it and hold each other's gaze for as long as possible. Then break away and fluff. Then play the game again later on in the evening, and by the third time, when a slow dance comes on or something she WILL break the rule and KISS you.

*Evil Genius*

So, lessons you have learned:

1) When you get IOI's like that act on them. You should switch frame and flirt like hell.
2) Touch her, tease her, kino escalate. (you did do some of this)
3) You didn't fuck up with THAT line, you fucked up because you didn't prepare the necessary ground work before hand and your delivery probably sucked.
4) A window of opportunity exists, for a brief moment in time. Act on it.


Lastly, treat this as feedback, there WILL be others. I'm not sure what to text her or how long to wait, but someone will...
Author:  Thyla [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:32 pm ]
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Thinking so negatively like that won't help you at all. I agree with what tweeby said, you need to relax and just have fun. Another reason she might not have kissed is because she wasn't isolated. It's hard to tell since your writing is unclear, but I think that's what I read. Either way your best chance would have been to kiss her while dancing to build off that momentum you had with her.
Author:  metallica [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:54 pm ]
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omg guys you the masters she was with 2 friends girls they left and she stayed there what was she expecting?????????? :?: :?: :?:

btw thanks for your replys
Author:  tweeby [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:58 pm ]
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Well that sounds to me like she WAS waiting for you to make a move.

She wouldn't just leave her friends like that.

But, as I see it, your mistake was your delivery and your body language, remember ( 99% body language 1% what you say or something)

The way you put it, correct me if I'm wrong here, you just went up to her after standing around with your mates for hours and asked, 'Do you wanna kiss me or not?' *Bam up comes her anti-slut defence*

I know what you're thinking: She was grinding with me earlier, she's deliberately standing there alone. I don't wanna waste anymore time, I want to close her right now. Should be easy. WRONG, if you reopen her you have to start again from the beginning, or near the beginning anway. It's a pain but that's how these chicks behave/ think. Being an alpha male who gets women, they expect you to know this!

Remember, girls LIKE foreplay... 8)

This is how I would have done it:

Me: (Gently/playfully, bump into her and smile) Hey hey, you look kinda lost there kiddo, you know my mom has the same expression when she's trying to look for her car in the parking lot.
Her: Ha ha, (some excuse about her friends leaving or waiting somewhere), blah blah blah...

Then you reinitiate the push/pull tension and kino escalate. You COULD have totally used the line, 'Do you wanna kiss me or not?' given the correct build up - but of course she was EXPECTING you to make a move on her on the dance floor after you've isolated her.

Don't worry about it now, just LEARN from it.
Author:  metallica [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:28 pm ]
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well she was dancing with me and after a while she said to me wait im going out for a minute with her friends i said ok she left and after 3 minutes there she is alone in the bar so i went to her and asked the question
Author:  tweeby [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:35 pm ]
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She probably did go out to her friends and said to them, listen I like this guy, wait here and give us some time alone. She probably asked for validation about you, i.e if they thought you were safe/cute etc. The fact that she came back in means her friends gave YOU the green light. So you've won over both her AND her friends.

Then she came back and you blew it! :lol: Makes yer sick! I know been there so many times.

As I said before, that line wasn't your failing, it was the escalation or lack thereof preceding.

Peace.
Author:  metallica [ Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:42 pm ]
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hey guys i sended a msg today and she said that she has a bf and i just wanted you to be my friend yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh right so i said to her you know i was drunk yesterday and i didnt know what i was doing so i agree with you we should be friends and she gave me her facebook and i add her she accepted is she still interested or just wants to be friends??????????????
Author:  Double J [ Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:15 pm ]
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LMFAO. ha ha ha ha! Omg, right guys. sorry im crying with laughter here. try reading the first post in a real serious voice, without pausing and pronounce the words how there spelt. god thats funny.

Anyways, help wise? from what ive got from your very long sentence, you dont know how to game at all right? I mean like, dont know an oponer or any of the "rules" we follow.
So forget about that girl, study up, ask the good people on this site for advice, and start pulling all the fit girls you want.
Author:  tweeby [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:58 pm ]
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You know how people go on pity dates.

This is like that, you've totally jumped through all her hoops and have taken 100 steps back.

Well done, you've made another friend on Facebook. Seriously, learn some game.
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