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| Author: | hamsterattack [ Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | finding "value" |
hey I'm having a problem concerning DHV. My friends happen to seem considerably less "socially valuable" than me, at least it would appear so to a (hot) girl. Added to the fact that I don't have many females surrounding me (hence my decision to enter the game), I'm left to approach girls alone with myself and my fledgling PUA skills. I know that I have a certain amount of control of demonstrating higher value through speech, posture, dress, etc., but I'd feel a lot more comfortable with a wing/pivot/anyone useful at my side. Does anyone have any advice? Thanks |
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| Author: | LEPRECHAUN [ Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:33 am ] |
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OK I am going to share with you for the first time ever who my pivot was while I was gaming in public... I got my day game down to perfect before I entered the clubs... My pivot was a puppy. That's right, a puppy. A cute little British Bull Dog named Zeus. When you have a puppy, that is a full blooded breed, then girls will actually open you. Do not get a mut to be your pivot. Make sure the dog is full blooded. In case you are wondering, the puppy was not mine, it was a friends dog. Worst case scenario, you could just carry around a leash in your hand and go to a park. When you see a hottie, just start calling out for your dog... make up a name or use your actual pets name. Go over to her and ask her if she has seen (describe your dog), if she says NO, then ask if she can help you find it. Do not take her to the woods, walk on the path or just stay in the open area at the park. After a few minutes, just say, "Oh he'll come back in a few minutes..." and then just start talking to her. If she asks if you are going to look for your dog, just tell her that you made it up so you could meet her because she looked like an interesting person that you might like to know better. If this is done right, she will laugh and might even hit you on the arm a little bit (flirting) and she might offer up her number without you even asking... if she don't offer her number, hand her your cell and tell her, "it's cool.. you can just put it in my phone." When she puts it in your phone, tell her, "ok, I'm calling you now so that you have my number too." If she hesitates, tell her to get her cell out and you will give her your number... when she does this, and she puts it in her phone, tell her to call your phone right now. This way, you get her number too. Then you can tell her that you are going to put her name as "Animal Lover"... she should laugh at this and either say ok or she will tell you her name... If she just says ok, you tell her, nah what's your name animal lover? Ok. I'm tired, I think I have completed the task of what to use as a pivot since none of your other friends are the correct material. |
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| Author: | Ezo [ Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:46 am ] |
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It depends. Sometimes it is easier to go out without a wing and sometimes it is more difficult. A good wing gives you social proof. A bad wing holds you back. Try finding people willing to learn the game and go out with them. Why not learn together. Even if I sometimes go out with low value people I sometimes stray from the group and open solo... |
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| Author: | hamsterattack [ Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | thanks |
guys thanks a lot. both posts made a lot of sense. i guess even if i go solo it will only make me develop my game that much more.. |
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| Author: | Stygian [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:24 am ] |
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Make a point of going out solo then. If you're comfortable solo then you'll develop a hell of a frame for it, which will work out great for you after some time. Don't be afraid of stepping outside your comfort zones. In fact, make a point of it. |
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