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Hello, Ling.

I see what you're saying about approaching from the side. I would never advise approaching from the back or following a woman. If the women is walking towards you then you should root yourself to the spot and say, "Are you from around here?", and stay rooted, until she stops and walks back to you. However, if you happen to be walking parallel to her then you should touch her, IMO

The line about giving off a heterosexual aura is meant to be said in a way which conveys humor, with strong body language and smile. I think the routine is high value because you're showing you get approached and that you're desirable. I don't really like the Mystery Method because it's too analytical and most of it is quite superfluous, IMO. I just open with a MM opener and then try to transition into the Juggler Method by using reciprocal disclosure.

The only reason I advise touching a girls arm is because it's psychologically proven to increase compliance. I have tried this technique without touching, and women don't usually stop so you end up walking side by side with them all the way down the street which is embarrassing.

I agree that it's better to approach from the front, and root, and that touching should be reserved for the night game.

Author:	Black&White [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:14 pm ]
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In case of a single lady walking, what would be my first step? Follow up steps?

Author:	Ling [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:31 pm ]
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single sets are pretty easy dude. I like one of 2 approaches. 1) Genuine approach- Hi, I noticed you as i came in and i had to come over and see if your personality matched your looks. (something like that) 2) Try a situational comment- if shes looking at a car you make a comment about it, same with a magazine, or whatever else happens to be in your vicinity. The reason i say single set is easy is because there are no obstacles whatsoever, you dont have to win anyone else over just slap on some C/F and youre gold.

Author:	Messerschmitt [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:33 pm ]
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"Hey! I don't know [Current Location] all that well, could you give me directions to [Restaurant/Store/Other]?" I've seen that opener advised a few times for this kinda situation. I assume admitting you don't know the area too well would disarm her bitch shield, as it makes you look a little AFC-ish; i.e. with no intention of picking her up.

Author:	Lion Cub [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:26 pm ]
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If she's walking in the street, try to walk besides her in the same direction, and reach out and touch her arm , "Can I ask you a quick question, do you think this shirt makes me look gay?" If you touch her, she will usually stop! However, if you don't touch her, there's a good chance she'll keep walking, with you following behind her like a fool. This will make her feel uncomfortable and you feel uncomfortable aswell. If she doesn't stop then don't pursue her. The opener I mentioned above has worked on women in the street. I didn't get their numbers, but they were very receptive and open to chat. This is the structure: Me: Hey, can I ask you a quick question? Do you think this shirt makes me look gay? Wait for her response Me: The reason I'm asking is because I was just having a drink in that pub down there and this tall guy came over to me and said: "Hey, I like that Shirt, would you like me to buy you a drink?" . Wait for her response I was kinda upset because I always thought I gave off a very strong heterosexual aura, and now I'm not to sure! (wait for her response) I was quite shocked. I almost spat my drink all over him. (TRANSITION INTO SOMETHING ELSE)

Author:	Ling [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:08 pm ]
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Quote: If she's walking in the street, try to walk besides her in the same direction, and reach out and touch her arm , "Can I ask you a quick question, do you think this shirt makes me look gay?" If you touch her, she will usually stop! However, if you don't touch her, there's a good chance she'll keep walking, with you following behind her like a fool. This will make her feel uncomfortable and you feel uncomfortable aswell. If she doesn't stop then don't pursue her. The opener I mentioned above has worked on women in the street. I didn't get their numbers, but they were very receptive and open to chat. This is the structure: Me: Hey, can I ask you a quick question? Do you think this shirt makes me look gay? Wait for her response Me: The reason I'm asking is because I was just having a drink in that pub down there and this tall guy came over to me and said: "Hey, I like that Shirt, would you like me to buy you a drink?" . Wait for her response I was kinda upset because I always thought I gave off a very strong heterosexual aura, and now I'm not to sure! (wait for her response) I was quite shocked. I almost spat my drink all over him. (TRANSITION INTO SOMETHING ELSE) Dude no offense but i didnt like these at all. In my experience you NEVER want to approach a girl from the side or behind like you suggested to begin with. Always approach from the front and at a slight angle. Also, I never initiate contact by touching them, that just screams stalker at them... and it puts them on the defensive right from the get-go, something you dont want. Also, why would you ask if youre giving off a homosexual vibe??? Dude, that screams lack of confidence to me.... If you wanna use that id try something like You: Do you think this shirt looks good on me? Her: yeah, it looks nice ( or something like that) You: I mean, I know i look good but dang i just had a guy try to pick me up in a bar..... Her: haha well yeah you look pretty cute in it. You: I know but dang, not cool haha... (transition) I really refrain from saying anything that questions my own value, espesially in the initial stages when youre making your first impression. To me, -I thought I put off a real strong hetero vibe but now Im not sure- I think the girl is literally going to hear.... I thought I was straight but damn i dunno now.... I dunno man, all and all just seemed weak to me.

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Author:	Lion Cub [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:03 pm ]
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Hello, Ling. I see what you're saying about approaching from the side. I would never advise approaching from the back or following a woman. If the women is walking towards you then you should root yourself to the spot and say, "Are you from around here?", and stay rooted, until she stops and walks back to you. However, if you happen to be walking parallel to her then you should touch her, IMO The line about giving off a heterosexual aura is meant to be said in a way which conveys humor, with strong body language and smile. I think the routine is high value because you're showing you get approached and that you're desirable. I don't really like the Mystery Method because it's too analytical and most of it is quite superfluous, IMO. I just open with a MM opener and then try to transition into the Juggler Method by using reciprocal disclosure. The only reason I advise touching a girls arm is because it's psychologically proven to increase compliance. I have tried this technique without touching, and women don't usually stop so you end up walking side by side with them all the way down the street which is embarrassing. I agree that it's better to approach from the front, and root, and that touching should be reserved for the night game.

Author:	Ling [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:29 pm ]
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Quote: Hello, Ling. I see what you're saying about approaching from the side. I would never advise approaching from the back or following a woman. If the women is walking towards you then you should root yourself to the spot and say, "Are you from around here?", and stay rooted, until she stops and walks back to you. However, if you happen to be walking parallel to her then you should touch her, IMO The line about giving off a heterosexual aura is meant to be said in a way which conveys humor, with strong body language and smile. I think the routine is high value because you're showing you get approached and that you're desirable. I don't really like the Mystery Method because it's too analytical and most of it is quite superfluous, IMO. I just open with a MM opener and then try to transition into the Juggler Method by using reciprocal disclosure. The only reason I advise touching a girls arm is because it's psychologically proven to increase compliance. I have tried this technique without touching, and women don't usually stop so you end up walking side by side with them all the way down the street which is embarrassing. I agree that it's better to approach from the front, and root, and that touching should be reserved for the night game. Yeah you know what man, after i read your post a couple times i realised that i took some of it out of context.... normally i dont touch a woman until we have built up some rapport or what not, but I can see how a gentle touch on the arm would be fine just to get her to stop, and also to serve as a shit-test to see if she complies with you. Personally, I still dont like the line you had in there, but its more just not my style than anything else... if it works for you thats awesome bro. Let me ask you a question as well, what is this juggler method? I know it has a lot to do with conversation but I havent been able to find any of it on the net. Can you PM me a book title/link/ whatever you have? Id really like to read up on this.

Author:	Lion Cub [ Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:56 pm ]
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Most of the stuff I learned about Juggler was pieced together by watching his stuff on Youtube, a lot of which has been taken down now. There use to be a whole seminar of his on there, but it's gone now. Just type Juggler PUA into Youtube and you might be able to find some remnants of his stuff. If you can find Seduction School, which is a programme he did on British television, you'll be enlightened to a lot of his stuff. Unfortunately, you can't find it on Youtube, but it might be hosted somewhere.

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