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| Author: | mrlucky [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 1 girl, her bf, and another guy... help! |
hey guys, last night i was out in a small rock show at a bar (not at all my type of place, but i was supporting my friend who was in the band). Ambiance was fade, and room was 30% filled... I actually went there dressing pretty classy and was getting alot of looks since i was sticking out, which was good... during the night, there were 2 situations where i didn't know how to get in... there was a group of 1 good looking girl, didn't seem into rock either, her boyfriend (knew by kissing, grabbing and close control on her) and another guy. She was giving me looks all night, straight looks and by the "corner of the eye".. I didn't know what to do, I'm quite new in all of this in case you wondered, but this situation was particularly tricky! The guys noticed i was checking her out, and they noticed she was checking me out also... the tension was felt. --- what do you do?? Its like i was able to read from her "i would love to meet you, but i'm with my boyfriend right now as you can see and i'm pretty much stuck!" the same night, another couple in their 30s were there, she was great looking for her age! near the bar we exchanged a few looks and smiles, but then again... her bf was sticking to her the whole night... if you answer, well if you have a wing with you, he can disarm the guy(s), sure... but the guy with me was not really the type of guy you would bring out to party or to flirt with women.... |
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| Author: | LEPRECHAUN [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:37 pm ] |
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Here is something from a previous post of mine which, in fact, DEFINES EXACTLY the same situation you found yourself in... Read through this scene and then pay attention to the part that happened to you. There are some places where you can just ignore what is going on in this... *** The complete thread can be read here (it's long): amoging-defined-routines-vt38579.html --- A friend and I sit down on the bar stools, where we'll spend the rest of this post at... The main AMOG is a big fucker. He's a natural. The girls dig him. The bartender is telling the AMOG's 5-set about how everyone thinks that her breasts are fake, but they're really real, etc. etc.. She's qualifying herself, which surprises me because this girl has no need. She probably wants the AMOG. I yell over: PUA: Don't be embarrassed.. Implants will give you buoyancy when you're swimming. If we were all lost at sea, you'd be the only one to survive.." Bartender: hahahahaha. They're not fake!! PUA: Sure.. Um yeah, cool.. AMOG: Hey! Don't insult my girlfriend! (I can tell he's playing Mr Coolguy AMOG, and that he's not her boyfriend.) PUA: You guys are a couple? That's so cute. You guys are so similar looking, it's like you're brother and sister. Oh man - if you guys have kids they'll come out like (I put my hands on the side of my face and made flipper motions and aqueaky noises, pretending the kids will be inbred) Bartender: (and whole set) hahahahahaha.. AMOG: What? Shut the fuck up or I'll smash your face in. PUA: LOL.. Whoa. Dude man, I'm turning back around. This whole corner of the bar is yours man. You rule this territory. You're like the alpha-male of this joint man - carry on.. (I flick him off with a dismissive wave, as I turn my back on him, on my bar stool, and talk to my buddy on the other stool). Bartender: hahahahaha. (I chat with my buddy for a minute, as the bartender comes over and starts touching me and shit.. the girl from the AMOG's set is also staring at me, while I'm actively ignoring all of them and just chatting with my friend, to make it look like we're just two old friends out on the town, having a drink to catch up.. Then the AMOG comes over and puts his arms around me and my friend, to out-alpha us). AMOG: Hey, you guys are cute. I want to buy you a drink, man. (it's condescending to out alpha me). PUA: A drink? Holy shit dude, you're like the nicest guy in this whole place man, thanks.. yo, this guy wants to buy me a drink! (I yell this a few times for everyone to hear, so he looks stupid.. they all laugh at him) AMOG: Yeah, I'm calling him sute. PUA: OMG man. You're cute too. I love your nipples (poke him). Man, you can roll with me any time. (Now everyone is laughing at him, and he's not too happy. He's touching me more and more, to regain status. I'm laying back like I don't give a fuck, and then I jump out from under his arm, slap him on the back, and go "Whoa big fells.. easy now.." and turn my back on him and re-engage my buddy). Out of nowhere, the girl from the AMOG's set crawls up on his back, and peeps over at me from over his shoulder. She looks like a little 5 year old, peeping over her dad's shoulder. PUA: You look like a little puppet, peering over at us like that. It's so funny. HB: hahaha.. What? I'm a puppet? PUA: Yeah. Or a powerpuff girl.. HB: hahaha.. which one? PUA: Bubbles.. HB: hahaha.. what's your name? AMOG: (cuts in, probably thinking "how the fuck is this guy doing this??") This guy is cute. I tried to buy him a drink (trying to out-alpha me). PUA: Yeah, I'm thinking of going home with this guy. I can't resist a big teddy bear like him. He's so cuddly, and he touches me alot which I really like. Look at his big arms (I squeeze his arms). HB: hahaha.. PUA: Yeah, but you know what? Really, the real sexual predators are girls.. Girls are sexual predators.. OK, get this. Girls are the only ones with one body part, that's designed for nothing other than sexual pleasure. HB: hahaha AMOG: Hey, you can't talk about this to my girlfriend. PUA: Hey man, this may be your girlfriend, but she's MY little sister.. (I turn from him to the girl). You know what? You're lucky I even let you go out with her, man. If I wasn't going home tonight with this big teddy bear, I'd adopt you. You could be my new little sister. HB: (jumps on me and kisses me). OMG, I would love that.. PUA: Yeah, I would wrap you up in a little bubble wrap envelope. I'd pack you in my suitcase and you could squish all the bubbles. I'd take you to LA with me to hang out, so you wouldn't have to live in this shitty weather. HB: OMG OMG OMG.. Yes! Do it! (AMOG is feeling deflated.. I have so many IOIs because I'm using a bit of party style game on her, in terms of the high impact lines I'm using.. He feels the lack of attention from his girl) AMOG: Hey, are you going to adopt me too? PUA: Dude, be quiet, I'm talking about sexual predators.. Now where was I? Oh yeah.. Girls are the only ones with one body part just for sexual pleasure. HB: hahahaha PUA: Yeah, and on that body part, there are ten times more nerve endings than anything that a guy has.. HB: hahahaha PUA: That's why when girls have sex, they go 'awwww.. ohhhhh..' and guys are like 'umm yeah, this is cool.' HB: hahaha (dies laughing) it's true! Girls are sexual predators! OMG, I can't believe you know that! AMOG: Wow, this guy is smart.. PUA: Thanks bro. Man, I love compliments. It's definitely ON between us tonight dude. HB: hahaha PUA: Check this out. My friend showed me this earlier today. This rocks. (Do a magic trick) As fucking usual, and I see this all the time with AMOGs - he steals the coin out of my hand. But, because I have the IOIs, I just say "Hey, my boyfriend is feeling a little insecure. Get the coin back from him." and I turn my back on her. Because I've turned my back, she feels the loss of the takeaway and starts screaming at the guy to give it back. He looks like an idiot, having to give it back.. btw, in cases where this happens 'before' I have IOIs to make her scream at him to it back, I just pumpa bunch of mini-cold-reads and teases in a row, to get her buying temperature up fast, and then ask. She'll do it. In this case, I have buy temperature already, so I just tell the girl what to do, and turn around and smirk my buddy, whose jaw is dropped, gaping at how I've structured this. She pulls me and tugs me to turn back around, and I run the trick on her. HB: OMG OMG OMG.. that was so fast.. PUA: You're awesome.. I love how you laugh at all my jokes and you me feel like I'm the shit.. I want to hang with you all the time.. Actually, I know I never will, because its a bar-thing, but I felt the emotion of wanting it for one brief second back there, nonetheless.. HB: nooooo, you have to hang with me, blah blah.. PUA: No no.. Your boyfriend here can take care of you. Look at this guy. He's super nice. He even tried to buy me a drink. You could get drinks from this guy, and he'd call you 10 times a day and worship you and always seek your approval. Plus, look how cute he is. And look at his arms. (I squeeze his arms). AMOG: Oh, thanks man.. You're cute too (not good enough of a comeback, so she's still focused on me). (I roll my eyes at the girl like 'lets go' girl eyecode, and she nods to me in understanding). AMOG: (whispers into my ear) Dude, this girl is from Perth (45 minutes away). She doesn't live here. You won't get her. PUA: (ignoring the comment) You know, I have a intuition about you. You're from Perth, aren't you That's the feeling I get. HB: Holy shit! How did you know that??? AMOG: I 'told' him. PUA: Umm yeah. HB, it was actually intuition. Watch. Picture a number on a blackboard, from one to four. Picture it, picture it, picture it.. ok.. three. HB: OMG OMG OMG.. How did you do that??? AMOG: He guessed.. PUA: Yeah, cool man.. Anyway, keep picturing the black board.. Picture a number from one to ten.. picture it, picture it, picture it.. seven. HB: ahhhh (screams) (she now believes that I could tell that she was from Perth on my own, and thinks that the AMOG is lying to her) PUA: I'll teach you that sometime. It's easy to learn, but not many people know it. Everyone has it in them. HB: OMG. PUA: I'm trusting you more now. But I still see that predator thing on your face. I'm going to trust-test you. (run trust test, and fail her even though she does decent.. I slap her hands away and tell her to 'go away', as she keeps her hands there like a puppydog trying to take another shot.. she gets it good, and then I put her hands on my thighs, and she keeps them there as I lean back in my chair - good IOI). I then run the teddy-bear lap tactic thing on her, and she jumps off me and shrieks. She whispers in my ear "You can't do that with them here.. Don't do that right now.." I'm surprised. I've never had that trick fail even once. Instead of worrying, I just plow through, and figure to try again later, once buying temperature is up (although I'm surprised, because all of my intuitions were telling me that she was high enough to sit on my lap). I run around 5-6 humor stories, including bad ass little kid story, rollerblading story, and commonalities story.. The AMOG is constantly trying to be invasive, and I just keep either rolling my eyes at him and continuing, or out-alphaing him with the basic stuff that I was using before. On a few occasions over the next hour he gets in a few good ones, but it's like 10-1 in my favor, so I suck up all the IOIs from him within seconds, every time. He's frequently telling me what to do. Ordering me around. "Dude, come dance.", "Man, show this girl something."m "Guy, treat me/her/whoever with respect." I'd constantly say shit like "Easy tiger.. C'mon man, you're too cute to get angry", and shit like that. Or I'd completely ignore him, and be very dismissive. He couldn't get an inch, and everyone around us was very aware of it. He probably thought to himself "how is this little shit doing this?" Anyway, at this point the HB;s 'actual' boyfriend comes over, and he's friends with the AMOG. He starts making out with the HB I've been gaming, and the AMOG is like "see man, there's her boyfriend". She comes over and whispers "he's lying. Neither of them are my boyfriends." She repeatedly nods her head and whispers "lying" whenever anyone mentions that she has a boyfriend, even though she has made out with this guy and it is very obvious that it is her boyfriend. Haaa! So that's why she jumped off my lap. It was a social thing, not a buying temp thing. She doesn't want AMOG telling her boyfriend anything. Makes sense. That's why she's put her hands on my legs and keep them there (good IOI est, to see if she's ready for more). Also, what's interesting here, is that my main goal in this set is to get social proof in front of the hot hot hot bartender. She's the one I really want. The HB in my set is pretty cute also, but the bartender stands out more. She's looking over my set, with great interest. She's coming over and sitting neat me all the time, giving me proximity-IOIs. I have conveyed alot of personality to her, obliquely, as she has watched this set. Also of note, is that every time that the HB from the set that I am gaming turns to her set to talk to them, I turn my back on them to talk with my buddy. I ignore them, as if the set is done. Each time, she will tap me on the shoulder and beg me to talk to her more. I ignore her taps, and keep talking to my friend. I don't even stop mid-sentence to acknowledge her, but rather pretending I'm not noticing her tapping my shoulder and yelling at me, until she practically jumps on me to get my attention. Then I'll turn around and give her more treats. I do massive comfort building, and build commonalities. We're holding hands, and she's squeezing. I build comfort and commonality for around 20 minutes. Then her friends drag her away to a seat about 15 feet away. My friend tells me that she's looking over constantly. She comes over and gets drinks and jumps on me, every five minutes. I ignore her, and she keeps going for my attention. The AMOG is looking over, glaring, and the boyfriend is clueless because he wasn't there earlier to see what was happening. I tell her that I want to hang with her, but that I can't because she's from Perth (elastic band disqualification, instead of saying she's "drunk" like I normally do, I use geography). She qualifies herself to me that her parents are rich and own 5 houses, and that she has a whirlpool in one of them and that I can come over tomorrow and a whirlpool with her. I'm like "cool", and then turn my back on her. This makes no sense, but I do this often when girls offer me their number. If I know it's fully on, then I'll make them work to try to bring up ways to make me take their number, and sit back and laugh inside as I watch them trying to bring it up cleverly as if it were natural. It's so funny to watch, because it's just like what guys do to girls, and it's so fucking transparent that it just shows me that it's impossible to cover up. My plan at this point, is to say "ask the bartender for a pen, to me your number." She does. You get number. Or.. you tell the bartender to take a pen over to the girl. I'm not sure whether of not this post conveyed it, but this set was very fucking tricky. It took constant balance between keeping the AMOG, the BF, and the girl, always in check. I used constant back-turns and AMOG blasters and kino and counter kino on the AMOG. I would break rapport and ignore him, then engage him nicely, then engage him condescendingly, then roll my eyes at him to the HB. It went on for around 2 hours or so. It also too confidence that the girl would return, which meant having confidence that the field tested and tried and true routines would have the impact to keep the girl hooked and coming back for more, without me doing anything to pursue the set or actively keep it going. |
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| Author: | mrlucky [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:36 pm ] |
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That is a very interesting reply, thanks a lot! However, in my situation, UNFORTUNATELY, no one in the set of 3 were talking, some small comments here and there as far as i can see, and really really low, not enough to hear. She seemed bored out of her mind. in the example you gave me, there was movement/action going on in the group and overhearing the conversation and making a comment is a good opener... but in this case, there was nothing going on! just tension between me and her, and the guys were just sitting there... what would i do? try to ask the group something and get myself introduced? i felt confident enough with the feeling i had that i even imagined myself slipping her my number, at that moment, i was sure she was itching on her seat to talk to me.... i find it though because the group is dead, she keeps on looking at me , the tension is there, the guys can probably feel it too.. would be less hard if the group was having fun and drinking etc... this party of 3 was just plain dead! |
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| Author: | Godbrother [ Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:15 am ] |
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Quote: Here is something from a previous post of mine which, in fact, DEFINES
This post must have taken a WEEK to write.. but 10000000000 points haha!EXACTLY the same situation you found yourself in... Read through this scene and then pay attention to the part that happened to you. There are some places where you can just ignore what is going on in this... *** The complete thread can be read here (it's long): You had me laughing the whole time through. Great game man |
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