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Author:  MiloLenerson [ Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:17 pm ]
Post subject:  She won't give me a chance

It's this girl that I had known before I read 'Attraction isn't a choice' and other David DeAngelo material.

I moved inter-state and didn't contact her all too often during the year I was out of South Australia. Then when I got back I asked to meet up and she doesn't seem like she's up for the idea. But I knew if I had a chance that I could attract her.

How do I get her to give me that chance?

I don't see her around because we're both out of school now. And we were never in a relationship but I think that there was a brief period when she kind of liked me more than a friend.

I haven't been put into the friend zone, I don't even know where I am with her. How could I spark some interest? I have Myspace and her phone number as ways of contact.

There's also her friend's party in two weeks that I'm invited to and she could possibly be attending. I was thinking of something involving pre-selection and masculine body language. Would this be enough?

Author:  kasabi [ Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: She won't give me a chance

There's nothing in your post that would suggest gaming your girl would be much different from any other girl. Just follow all the steps and stop driving yourself crazy with too much thought.

(So many people tend to think that "their" girl is special this way or that way or can't be gamed or has some alien bitch shield or crazy ass shit test or is a nice girl or high value with special acronyms or in your case some history that might get in the way . . . whatever) THEY ARE ALL THE SAME.

Author:  LEPRECHAUN [ Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:29 pm ]
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You don't know where you stand with this girl? If you don't know where you
stand, then, this is usually a good thing.

And you mentioned a party that she "might" be at as well as you...

At this party, just say hi to her, and then start gaming on other girls at
this party. Be sure that you can see her while you are gaming these other
girls... Pay attention to see if she keeps staring at you while you are talking
to these other girls.

If she follows you around while you are gaming these girls, then she is
interested in you talking to her.

Let's all remember one of the human laws. Forgot where I heard about it,
but here it is...

"Females tend to gravitate towards what they find appealing."

Therefore. If they are attracted to you, they will automatically gravitate
closer to you.

Have you ever been in a store of any kind and you notice a female that
always seems to be where you are whenever you move to a different
isle in the store? Yet, she does not even buy/get anything from that same
isle as you?

If this happens at least 2 times, whenever you leave that isle and go to
turn out of it, do a subtle corner-look to see if she is looking at you...
also known as, her checking you out from the back.

If this does happen, turn your ass around and go talk to her.

NOTE: All the above can be used at the party too. Just remember this:

"Females tend to gravitate towards what they find appealing."

Author:  MiloLenerson [ Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:08 am ]
Post subject: 

kasabi: It's not that I think she's special, it's just that she needs a different approach because she already knows me and thinks I haven't changed since last time we met. (When I knew absolutely nothing about attraction and made a lot of mistakes)

LEPRECHAUN: Yours was the more helpful post. I'll keep all that in mind if she's at the party. Would it be a bad move to game one of her close friends? Or should I just make sure that all her friends have a good impression of me? I heard that's important.

Author:  LEPRECHAUN [ Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:33 am ]
Post subject: 

I found that in my experience, it is always best to display higher value to
her friends as well as her. Make them laugh and all that good stuff that you
have learned.

If you want this girl, then I highly recommend that you do not game her
friends. Most girl friends tend to have some sort of "rule" between them.

That rule is that if one of them sleeps with a guy, then 95% of the time,
the other girls in that said "click" will not sleep with you.

So, short answer... do not game her friends.

Author:  kasabi [ Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:17 am ]
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You didn't understand me.

You don't need her "approval" to game her. You don't need to look for Ioi's or dhv's or any other dumb acronyms. You say NOW, you have game. . . well, then act like it and stop pussy footing around.

Stop dwelling on your past and what you did and didn't do. One positive conversation changes EVERYTHING. You don't need some special technique. There is no "well I was a chump before and now I'm a player and I have to convince her" technique.

The more you continue with all this, "Should I do this or that . . " The more you're going to F yourself over. After reading your last post, I would be inclined to suggest that you go out to a mall and start chatting up every girl you see and GETTING their numbers . . . and GETTING them to be attracted to you. You seem to know our little game by bits and pieces in theory but it's clear you haven't repeated the process enough to be comfortable with it. What I'm telling you . . . and you continue to refuse to believe it, is that any sort of game that will work on a random girl in a mall will work on this girl. The more you continue to believe otherwise, the more you're going to F yourself over.

At the party . . .

You: Hey that's a cool _____ you're wearing, you pick it up at _____? (Where ever she went to school.

Her: Yeah . . . blah blah blah

You: It kinda matches up with your _____. Well, you still look so freaking hot.

Her: Blah blah blah

You: (Cut her off) Hey!(Grab her elbow) there's this place in ______(where you went to school). They have the best damn ______ (any kind of food)

Her: blah blah blah

You: What's your favorite place in _______ (where she went to school)

Her: blah blah

You: Cool . . that reminds me, there's this place that has the best _____ in town, we should definitely hit it together.

Her: blah blah blah

You: Let's do Friday . . . (Then look away) Hey, ______ (Any other person in the room) I'll be right back.

Then just go have an animated talk with the other person and here, you can be a class clown. Just make the other person laugh and chat about beers or whatever.

You come back later,

You: Friday . . . cool. I'm looking forward to it. (Plant her a kiss on her cheek. Big fat fucking smile.)

100's . . . no 1,000 different routes to take. Just take one and do it and stop treating her like something special. You write that she's "not special" then you go "it's just that. . . ." NO . . . there are no, "it's just thats". She's a chick with a vagina and you want a piece. Work it. Tap it.

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