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Author:  swinger [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:21 am ]
Post subject:  Too many negs- failed rapport
With attractive ladies I tend to neg too much and I they percieve me as an arrogant **** and as a consequence I fail. Any advise on how to show higher value and lower hers in order to gain time to attain rapport. When do I stop negging and give a compliment. What kind of compliment works best to show her that I am "rewarding" her instead of sucking up like AFCs.
Would be grateful for any replies.
Author:  Calliber [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:21 am ]
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Uhhhmm you shouldnt want to LOWER her value but to try to raise your own in her eyes
As for over negging, you should use at most 3 good negs on an HB10, and 2 or less on a 9 and below. The problem could also be in you delivery, as negs should be delivered in an offhand way, not saying them and then waiting to gauge her reaction

-Cal
Author:  Cinnamon Spice [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:07 am ]
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I'd argue the problem is in negs entirely.

Lately there's been a bit of an argument in the community over negs.

Personally I feel they should not be used except as a type of punishment. If the girl DESERVES a neg, then use it. Otherwise, stay away from them.

Negs need to be delivered well and are very, very, VERY often misused, mis-delivered, and thus, misunderstood. A misunderstood neg can cost you the set.

Negs can confuse girls if you've already built attraction and they can piss off girls if you use them wrong. They are not an essential tool by any means.

Cinnamon
Author:  jurupa [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:16 am ]
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Quote:
With attractive ladies I tend to neg too much and I they percieve me as an arrogant **** and as a consequence I fail. Any advise on how to show higher value and lower hers in order to gain time to attain rapport. When do I stop negging and give a compliment. What kind of compliment works best to show her that I am "rewarding" her instead of sucking up like AFCs.
Would be grateful for any replies.
Either you are using negs wrongly, or your not reading the girl(s) correctly to know when you done enough negging.
Author:  jurupa [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:20 am ]
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Quote:
Uhhhmm you shouldnt want to LOWER her value but to try to raise your own in her eyes
As for over negging, you should use at most 3 good negs on an HB10, and 2 or less on a 9 and below. The problem could also be in you delivery, as negs should be delivered in an offhand way, not saying them and then waiting to gauge her reaction

-Cal
I disagree with putting a limit to how many negs one should use. Because you really have no clue until you actually talk to the girl how many you should use or not use for that matter.
Author:  Sun of Nothing [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:35 am ]
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Stop neg-ing all together, TEASE her. Let her know you're not serious.
Author:  Immolation [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:15 am ]
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I only neg hardcore with hb10s.

if you do neg, and she gets frustrated, angry, or insulting, just act cool about it. If she puts on all these sudden shields, just keep throwing negs, except make them more playful. If she keeps responding, and doesn't walk away, then she's interested, and you can actually tame her pretty quickly.
Author:  zhukaching [ Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:37 pm ]
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hey dude, neg is a disqualifier, not an insult.
Author:  -Achilles [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:43 am ]
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After negging, stack inmediately. If you wait for her response she'll go like "you're an asshole!"
Author:  pedro2385 [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:50 am ]
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Sun of Nothing:
Quote:
Stop neg-ing all together, TEASE her. Let her know you're not serious.
Think this would make life much simpler :D . Plus is just as effective.
Author:  expat_of_love [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:53 am ]
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I like how some of you talk about the "community" as if it is a group of adult men gathering over some nice steaks and drinking good Malbec.
Author:  Jaybot [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:59 am ]
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Don't neg chances are it is unnecessary (you aren't gaming uptight models), if you want to disqualify then guess what .... use a disqualifier ( " I don't usually go for blondes, they are always bunny boilers"). If you want to seem uninterested leave and come back or use body language to show that you can take her or leave her, or if you really want to seal the deal hit on another girl and start a jealousy plot.
Finally I don't think there is ever a perfect number of negs as every set is different.
Author:  Sinn [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:54 pm ]
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Hey man,

A simple strategy is to balance out teases with compliments.

Like:

You're such a dork... Bad facial flinch- It's adorable!

You suck- For being this cool.

Balance is key.

Also don;t be afraid to apologize if the girls are getting offended.

S
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