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Author:  Mind Hacker [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Girl is freaking WEIRD! Need extreme PUA TIPS to understand!
A girl is coming here to my house. We've been dating for some time and she already came to my room several times and even gave me a blow job.

Now I was talking to her at MSN and we had this conversation:
Quote:
ME says:
so, are you coming?
HER says:
hmmm
HER says:
is there anyone at your house?
ME says:
nope
ME says:
everybody went to work
HER says:
look
HER says:
you'll want that we stay at your room... but I'm not in the mood of doing that stuff
ME says:
hmm... it's ok
ME says:
we can just talk
HER says:
but you'll keep insisting like that other day
ME says:
I'll not :)
And then she decided to come.

Now is this some kind of test? LMR? Or what?
Did I acted right?

What to do now? I was thinking about trying to kiss her everywhere and make her DESIRE it. And then I would say in a jokish way "Hey! I'm not in the mood to do that! Don't try to seduce me, ok?"

what do you think?
Author:  Ryuuku [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:03 pm ]
Post subject: 
i would say that 'last time' you were a little too pushy about it. time to be pully :lol:. freezeout and let her do the chasing.
Author:  Mind Hacker [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:04 pm ]
Post subject: 
THIS GIRL IS FREAKING WEIRD!!!

She came here and said that she doesn't feel any desire to have sex and she doesn't even masturbate herself.

I started joking

"are you sure you aren't lesbian?"
"I think if you try it with me you may change your mind! Why don't you try?"

And she said
"I'm not lesbian."

and I kept joking
"Really? I think you need to prove it. I still think you're lesbian!"

and then she said:

"when feel I want to fuck I'll tell you".

Also, she said that the reason she didn't want to have a LTR with me was not because she wanted to date other guys, and that she's been just with me.

She started answering all these questions that I asked in my AFC days BY HER OWN. I didn't asked a thing.
Maybe I turned into rAFC and she's starting to try to clarify things and chase me?

Now this is getting weird. She doesn't want to fuck nor have a LTR. So what the hell she means with all this crap?

The only thing I know is: I'm not going to wait for her. I'll be fucking other girls. It's her choice to keep things this way.

Any advice?
Author:  Cinnamon Spice [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:25 pm ]
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You silly, silly boy.

Alright from what I see here you're activating her ASD. Hard.

You don't stop pushing her to have sex with you and she's not happy about that. I wouldn't be.

When you started joking about her being a lesbian you lost her. After that there was NO chance you were going to have sex with her that day, or possibly any day.

"If you try it with me you might change your mind!" Really? Are you SERIOUS?

You're going about this wrong, you're treating her like a sex toy. When she doesn't put out for you, what do you do, you tell her she needs to PROVE to you she's not a lesbian?
No, no, no...

I can understand why she doesn't want an LTR with you, you don't respect her as a person. All you want from her is sex. No one wants to have an LTR with someone who only wants them for sex.

She's not ready for sex with you and you don't seem to care. You're not making an effort to build any sort of intimacy with her beyond having sex as fast as you can.

Now I don't even know if you can save this. This is the second time you've treated her like this? Your chances of recovery are very, very low.

But any hope you have lies in apologizing (Yes PUAS can admit they were wrong) and pulling WAY back on the sex.

Why not take her on a date? One where sex isn't on your mind? A walk in the park, a lunch at a nice restaurant, simple coffee?

You need to tell her you're sorry for pushing her so fast. Then you need to let her know that she is in control of the speed at which you move intimately.

Push her any farther and you are facing sexual harassment charges. I'm serious. She's told you to back off and you've refused to change your agenda from sex. If you push her any further she has every legal right to charge you with sexual harassment. You need to be aware of that.

Now that you know what's going on, you need to know what you want. What do you want from this girl? An LTR? A FWB? A Sex toy?

I'm sorry if I sounded a bit snappy there but as a girl who dates a PUA and as a PUA myself I can say you have made a very big mistake and the fact that you're blaming it on the girl is wrong.

I look forward to your response.

Cinnamon
Author:  Mind Hacker [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:36 pm ]
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Thank you so much for the advice.

Actually, before I was being AFC and SHE was pushing sex to me. See: she gave me a blow job, and then started treating me like shit, so I started treating her with more negs and then she came to me trying to explain why she didn't had sex with me saying that thing above.

I don't think I lost her. But I'll not push any further in sex. In fact, I'll completely ignore that she could have sex with me.

It's her turn now. :D
Author:  Cinnamon Spice [ Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:42 pm ]
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Okay, I see.

Negs are something that confuse a lot of girls. If you already had her attracted to you you shouldn't neg her. Negs are supposed to lower her value, in effect raising yours. They're supposed to show you're not every other guy. But once you have attraction built and she's escalating things don't neg her. If you lower her value once she's attracted to you then you look like a jerk.

Negs beyond the first phase of seduction confuse girls. You look like a jerk and you loose attraction.

Be very careful with your negs.

Cinnamon
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