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| Author: | dark one [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:57 pm ] |
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I just made this up off the top of my head last night but it went somthing like this: Me: Hey do you girls go to college here right? them: Yes. Me: You must play sports then? Rugby right? Them: WHAT! what do you mean? Me: I mean you girl look like rugby girls Them: What does that mean? Do I look butch or somthing? Me: No....just toned and athletic I guess Them: OMG Me: It good that you keep in shape! This is wer Im not sure If I lost them or what....the one girl seemed really into me but the other one who Im guessing wasthe mother hen was just looking at me like I was an ass hole haha so help me out? P.S I like to use neg that I make up off the top of my head so its sounds more natural so mabey I could have better delivery? |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:02 pm ] |
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Bad Neg! Listen or Read in this case, in some situations you might need many if ANY negs. A lot of times you can get by with disinterested body language amongst other things like false disqualifiers. Negs are backhanded compliments and not insults. Look at a neg like the Mystery classic when he sees a girl with fake nails. "Nice nails, are they real? Oh well, they still look good on you." It's a compliment and a dis a the same time. You could reshape this to be more of an actual neg. Something like. "Are you girls into sports? The reason I ask is you look very fit, like you might play rugby." Compliment yet insult. I keep going with stuff on the fly, it'll come. |
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| Author: | dark one [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:06 pm ] |
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I see ok so just be a little less harsh....I think the way I said it was to out ther! Its not what is said it is whats heard so I guess I need to tone it down a bit. |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:07 pm ] |
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Quote: I see ok so just be a little less harsh....I think the way I said it was to out ther! Its not what is said it is whats heard so I guess I need to tone it down a bit.
Good point, many of the things is not so much "what" we say as it is in "how" we say it. Oh well, there's always another set. 
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| Author: | .EnVy. [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:51 pm ] |
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Dude, the neg is misinterpreted SO MUCH. This used to be my sticking point until i figured it out. A neg is just to DISQUALIFY yourself...you don't even have to say anything ABOUT her. Example: "Omg, I am WAY too gay for you!" <-- neg. "Nah, you and I would NEVER get along  " <-- negBody rocking. <-- neg Verbal false time constraint <-- neg "Whoa, whoa! you can't just TOUCH, missy! It'll cost you " <-- neg/C&FThose are negs. Forget the "You look like a rugby player girl." That'll just get you a kick to the balls lol. I hope this helps, buddy :] |
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| Author: | martni [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:23 pm ] |
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I don't agree with you, .EnVy. The neg is a type of disqualifier, not every disqualifier is a neg. Take a look at Jsmooth's post. Quote:
Negs are backhanded compliments and not insults. Look at a neg like the Mystery classic when he sees a girl with fake nails. "Nice nails, are they real? Oh well, they still look good on you."
It's a compliment and a dis a the same time. You could reshape this to be more of an actual neg. Something like. "Are |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:46 pm ] |
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Quote: I don't agree with you, .EnVy. The neg is a type of disqualifier, not every disqualifier is a neg. Take a look at Jsmooth's post.
We're all saying the same thing pretty much. Envy does have a point that you don't have to neg the girl. You can use false disqualifiers as well t hat don't relate to her. Quote:
Negs are backhanded compliments and not insults. Look at a neg like the Mystery classic when he sees a girl with fake nails. "Nice nails, are they real? Oh well, they still look good on you." It's a compliment and a dis a the same time. You could reshape this to be more of an actual neg. Something like. "Are It's true that a neg is a form of a false disqualifier according to the "Mystery Method: How To Get Beautiful Women Into Bed." Anyways home it helps bro |
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| Author: | Brenoporra [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:58 pm ] |
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its gotta be way more subtle man |
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| Author: | GQute [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:06 pm ] |
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Something not said in this post yet, but has been placed in many other articles: remember college game is not the same as when you're out of college, especially depending on the year. If chatting up some freshman, really watch your negs, they're already insecure as it is, if you neg you just might destroy them and completely turn them off. In this case I would use more non-verbal negs. also remember that college is full of "close" social circles. If any one of her friends takes it the wrong way, you're either dead in the water or facing more of an uphill battle than you probably want to take on. However, if you're gaming older girls or maybe some extremely secure hb's then take the advice above and remember the purpose is to disqualify not to insult. ~GQute |
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| Author: | .EnVy. [ Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:02 am ] |
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Quote: I don't agree with you, .EnVy. The neg is a type of disqualifier, not every disqualifier is a neg. Take a look at Jsmooth's post.
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Negs are backhanded compliments and not insults. Look at a neg like the Mystery classic when he sees a girl with fake nails. "Nice nails, are they real? Oh well, they still look good on you." It's a compliment and a dis a the same time. You could reshape this to be more of an actual neg. Something like. "Are Fair. But Mystery, in his Mind of Mystery training said this verbatim: "We're calling neg theory disqualification theory because a neg is a statement that temporarily disqualifies one's self from being considered a potential suiter to the woman. So, by negging, i'm disqualifying. By saying 'you're not my type,' im getting the point across that im not after her" I hope this clears things up, man
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| Author: | .EnVy. [ Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:34 pm ] |
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Martni, I was on youtube and I found a clip of Mystery from one of his old bootcamps backing up what I said earlier about disqualification and negging. check out 2:25 <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/88r28BAT6EA&hl ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/88r28BAT6EA&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> I hope that helps, man :] |
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