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Author:  SqHizzel [ Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Morals

I just saw a thread sayin do you game on hb6s or less just for practice. and im not judging cuz i dont judge people im just sayin when it comes to gaminng i have morals or rules i live by. I will not game a girl that im not interested in cuz thats giving her hope and playing with her then ultimately hurting her feelings. Why would i do that? i dont and didnt enjoy that when girls did that to me. So why would i do that to others. and also i dont use religion to game. and also I will not game a girl with a boyfriend unless you know he hits her or something. I mean would you like it if a guy took ur girl. i bet not. so what yall think? any of you guys got rules you abide by.

Author:  Playerone [ Thu Dec 25, 2008 6:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Morals

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I just saw a thread sayin do you game on hb6s or less just for practice. and im not judging cuz i dont judge people im just sayin when it comes to gaminng i have morals or rules i live by. I will not game a girl that im not interested in cuz thats giving her hope and playing with her then ultimately hurting her feelings.
PUA = Pick up artist. An artist doesn't paint just one picture does he? In essence by calling yourself a PUA you plan on flirting with many women. If you have morals against it, then don't do it.

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I will not game a girl with a boyfriend unless you know he hits her or something. I mean would you like it if a guy took ur girl. i bet not. so what yall think? any of you guys got rules you abide by.
Yours and her decision. If her BF is higher than you she'll block you out pretty quickly. All a matter of morals, if I don't know the guy and I'm really attracted to the girl and she's giving me IOIs I start throwing BF destroyers. But don't let it fool you, taking another guy's girl is not cool if you know him.

Author:  d3sign3r [ Thu Dec 25, 2008 7:55 pm ]
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I try to talk to as many people as I can. Personally, this is something I feel I need to do. I used to find it very difficult to open, but then I started to adopt the attitude/frame that I am a social guy and opening became a lot easier for me.

Now I talk to everyone I get the opportunity to. I would talk to guys, girls HB5+; whoever and I would want all those conversations to be fun interactions and for that reason I would use routines/techniques etc. I just wouldn’t take it to the next level.

It’s worth remembering that getting a “close” isn’t necessarily the only good outcome of an interaction, you might have fun, meet some new friends, cool and interesting people, and in turn they might open up your social circle in interesting ways.

So I guess my aim is to be a fun a friendly guy who will have that extra gear in the case of hot girls.

Author:  Cinnamon Spice [ Thu Dec 25, 2008 7:58 pm ]
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Hold on a second there.

He never said he wouldn't hit on many women. He said he wouldn't hit on women he wasn't interested in. I think there's nothing in PUA against that.

As for hitting on girls with boyfriends, that's another ballpark entirely. Personally I'm into Open Relationships so having a boyfriend doesn't really stop me from hitting on other boys and/or taking them home.
However, if you're a good PUA and you can steal girls away from their boy you need to realize that it just means she sees you as a higher value man than her boyfriend. As long as you're not lying when you're talking to her and being honest with your DHVs, SOIs and all that, then you've helped her find a better man who deserves her more. So I'm all for guys hitting on girls with boyfriends as long as you're being honest and not using NLP or anything like that.
If you're hitting on a girl with a boyfriend you job is to show her that you are better. NLP and SS both influence her decision making and I feel that that is unfair to both her and her boyfriend. If you are genuinely better than her current boy, you shouldn't need NLP or SS.

Personally, I abide by my own code of morals that impact everything I do, not just PUA. I'm a Girl Guide Leader, I want to be someone that those girls can look up to, be proud of and trust.

That means I'll let boys buy me drinks but I won't give them IOIs or my phone number, or even a fake one.
That means I only hit on boys I'd be interested in.
That means if I don't like a boy anymore I'll tell him.
That means I don't get as much practice as I would if I hit on anyone, it means I don't get a thrill of power from watching boys chase me without hope (and trust me I'd like that) but it means that every week, when I see my Girls, I don't feel guilty.

Now as for the community I think there's a general understanding that people should follow the 'leave her/him better than you found her/him' rule. This came from Ross Jefferies (according to Beshatten) but I found it in the writing of Dan Savage and every time I go camping. I follow it and I think, personally, if you don't then you're a creep. There have been arguments over this and I'm sure I'll get many, many replies to the contrary over this, so let me say one thing: You don't follow the Campsite Rule only when the relationship is ending; it's an attitude that permeates the relationship the whole way through.

That's just me, I understand there are many people who differ (If any of you boys are Girl Guide Leaders....then I'm scared). But you asked and there it is, my code.

Cinnamon

Author:  SqHizzel [ Thu Dec 25, 2008 8:25 pm ]
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thanks guys. and the social thing yeah that i understand. but Idk gaming a girl (who is not in an open relationship) just feels wrong to me. Cuz i would not like it done to me.

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