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| Author: | Pool Shark [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:35 pm ] |
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I dont know if this is the right place, move it if it isnt Right now im in my rAFC phase where im still getting a feel for this stuff so far its been going great. Theres just one thing i feel is holding me back. I smoke pot. A lot. Its funny cause Ill try and stop and will for a fews days (these are the days were i make the most progress) then it just feels like I have to smoke. Once I smoke it makes me not want to do anything and I start second guessing myself. I wanted to ask if any of you guys have had this problem and what are some steps on how i could stop. BTW Ive had the i need to stop conversation with my self some many times. Mods Close this cause theres already a thread. Thanks |
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| Author: | Rye Lee [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:46 pm ] |
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- Tell other people about your goal to stop, that way if you don't stick to it, you've got people that will call you on it and it'll make it a lot harder to break that promise. - Get rid of your stash and if you are truly committed to making it a lasting thing, then your smoking paraphernalia as well. If you have nothing to smoke and nothing to smoke it with, then it's a LOT easier to dismiss the idea of wanting to smoke. - Make a list of the good things you get from not smoking (increased memory, motivation, intelligence, etc) and the bad things that happen when you do smoke (laziness, over-eating, poor memory, brain doesn't work as smoothly, etc) and whenever you get the urge to smoke, look at it! Make yourself realise just why you NEED to stop and what the consequences of not following through are. Share your list with the people you've told that you're quiting and any time you feel the urge to smoke talk to them and they'll remind you why you are quiting. The one that is often most difficult is also one of the most important. If you smoke because you're with friends that smoke, then stop hanging around them when they're doing so. I'm not gonna tell you to completely stop seeing your friends, but in many cases, the only reason some people hang out together is because of the drugs they do together, in which case there's really not much reason to keep hanging out with them if you plan on quiting. It ain't easy man, but it's worth it. |
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| Author: | Pool Shark [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:50 pm ] |
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thanks yeah breaking all my stuff is going to be hard but its know something i have to do. Hahaha your points are actually the reason why i dont tell people im stopping cause then i get called out on it if i do smoke again. Guess its good to get called. Thanks for the thought out post. |
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| Author: | savage187 [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:57 pm ] |
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well my friend ive smoking every day all day for 5 years except for a lil 7 month period where i was getting drug tested. idk how long youve been smoking for but you gain a tolerance after a while and you start to mostly experience the positive effects. it also depends on the type of weed you smoke and how your body reacts to thc. like if youre smokin on some dro, youre not gonna be doin shit that day, youre homework, ya date with youre girl, cleaning the house, work if you have a job, meetin up with the homies at the mall at 5, forget it lol. but if youre smokin on some sticky crystalized bud you get a nice clean and lucid high perfect for spittin game. tolerance also matters after i got off probation i could hardly form a scentence for a good month and the only reason i was gettin any was cuz i had a girl. also idk if you drink but if you throw alcohol in there it kinda bypasses the anxiety and enhances your game. if you do make the decision to quit know its not gonna be easy since thc stays in your system for days, and once youre a stoner youre a stoner at heart for life. but when i quit i just start dating a square girl, find a hobby, start working out more. cigs help but if you dont already smoke i wouldnt reccomend it. good luck |
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| Author: | Rye Lee [ Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:06 am ] |
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Savage, the guy wants to quit, why are you trying to convince him not to? I personally have to disagree with a lot of what you've said anyways. Most people report that after having smoked pot for long periods of time, they become tolerant and LOSE the positive effects, instead having primarily the negative effects. I can attest to this myself. I figured I'd smoke a bit with a buddy a few days back and ever since I've been utterly burned out and lazy as hell. It's driving me insane! I'll make a pact with you Pool Shark. I tossed everything I've got out and I ain't gonna think twice about it. I'm just gonna focus on getting my energy back and clearing my head. How bout you? |
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| Author: | savage187 [ Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:35 am ] |
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ha, true rye. sorry i wasnt trying to convince him not to quit. i was just putting my 2 cents in on it. also i am bi polar so that could affect my experience with it, everyone has different brain chemistry so they do react differently to drugs. i didnt realize that he was really trying to quit, i thought he was asking for advice about being a stoner and PUA at the same time and having second thoughts about it (maybe i should stop getting high before i go posting on forums so if you guys want to quit more power to ya, rye definately had some good points on quitting. *exit stoner friends* *enter square bear girlfriend*. and like i said it helps alot to workout, eat right, and find a hobby. Also a tactic i learned from my weight training teacher (for quitting ciggarettes actually but im sure it would work with marijuana as well) is to save up all the money you would have spent on weed and decide something you really want (subs for your car, an xbox, PUA books) and spend it on that once you save enough, and every time you see or use that item you will know you have it because you quit smoking. and hey im not opposed to the idea of quitting, who knows what good it could bring about? *drugs are bad mmmk?* |
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| Author: | Musterion [ Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:17 am ] |
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Well personally I didn't smoked it for very long (only a couple of months) then I hit the stage where I could see it was only having negative effects on my mind and body, so I just froze myself out from it completely and havent been tempted since (it was a few years ago now). Now I'm gonna assume you have been smoking longer than a few months but while I stopped, ALL my friends carried on. We all started at the same time so each of them have been doing it for a few years now, it all started just smoking pot, now they are ALL on cocaine, ecstasy, poppers (i think that's the name) a couple of them are on ketamine and no doubt there is probably stuff they've done I don't know about. One of them became really bad and got into debt by spending double his monthly wages every 2 weeks on this stuff. Luckily he managed to get himself out of it when his girlfriend gave him a reality check and told him she was pregnant, but he still does some occasionally so I'm keeping an eye on him to make sure it doesn't get out of hand again. Now I'm not saying you will take the same road but it's something to keep in mind because shit can get very real very quickly, when the effects of pot start becoming stale you could start looking for the next high, then the next and so on. So all I can say is listen to the advice already given in this thread about making a list (kinda what I did actually only it was in my head not on paper) and finding better things to do with your time and money. |
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| Author: | Starfox [ Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:47 am ] |
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I was in the same situation as you. I smoked all day everyday, it got really bad when I did other stuff as well. But then it went back to only pot. Now I have stopped, not quit. Meaning I never ever will buy a personal stash again, because this leads to me smoking consistently. But I may partake in a session at a party or something because this way I feel it doesn't have complete control over me, if I just down right quit. So what worked for me was going cold turkey for a while and after you'll see you really don't need it that much. If you're still around friends who smoke alot it can be extremely difficult to kick the habit. |
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| Author: | Pool Shark [ Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:06 am ] |
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wow its so cool to see how many people posted with good answers. Dude i never thought about saving money and then buying stuff or doing something good with it and knowing that it was possible because I stopped. Thats a real cool frame. Rye, for sure Im going to break my stuff. Aw man thats going to be weird cause Ive had it for so long. O well its just stuff Thanks to everyone and Ill keep you guys posted if anything major happens. |
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| Author: | Brenoporra [ Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:21 pm ] |
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I had some trouble quitting it sometime ago too I smoked everyday, and then I could only hold until the weekend I only managed to stop when I made a promisse with my buddy that we'd allow each other to give a punch in tha face of who smoked, it lasted some 3 or 4 months, and since I was the one having problems with bad trips the promisse kinda got loose, but still, it was helpful as hell, because after this I KNEW I could stop by just not smoking(ps, it got loose cause my friend wanted to smoke again...) one really important thing also is conditioning your mind, maybe at first you dont succeed, but don't let go, keep conditioning your mind so you finnally drop this fucking psycological addiction! just look and see how smoking pot regurlarly is lame, mentalyze and store that in your mind, when you want to do it, remember your picture of the lameness so you can chose if you want or not more rationally think bigger, potheads generally are only successfull in the art industry, really the friends that smoked with me 2 years ago are in the same state till now, and I now have a big future waiting for me when youre 'on drugs' you may act like "hey, the hard shits aren't getting me", but even with this being true, you're still wasting potential, as you could have done many more things for yourself if you wasnt so alienated theres tons of reasons.. |
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| Author: | savage187 [ Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:35 pm ] |
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Quote: wow its so cool to see how many people posted with good answers.
Dude i never thought about saving money and then buying stuff or doing something good with it and knowing that it was possible because I stopped. Thats a real cool frame. Rye, for sure Im going to break my stuff. Aw man thats going to be weird cause Ive had it for so long. O well its just stuff Thanks to everyone and Ill keep you guys posted if anything major happens. better yet sell it, then buy somethign more productive with it |
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| Author: | Synckpua [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:26 am ] |
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have a good friend who is a strait arrow who wont judge charge u for everytime u smoke also u could be hanging around the wrong people I mean i'm not here to judge but set some goals for yourself and u can accomplish them |
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| Author: | Sinn [ Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:17 pm ] |
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I just quit smoking pot 7 days ago... Smoking never stopped me from gaming or anything like that ( though I did have to practice 1 night a week for like 6 Months to learn to game high) Ultimately I quit because I was getting way too paranoid and I was having respiratory problems. You may just be using the weed as an excuse for not manning up, and taking the steps you know you need to. If that's the case ditch the weed, if not recognize that weed in and of itself is not holding you back and work on step by step improvement while still indulging in the trees. S P.S I also quit cigarettes at the same time and that was a mistake. If you have many vices quit one at a time. |
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