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| Author: | pua_god [ Tue May 20, 2008 5:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Learning to "convince" or negotiate |
First of all, let me start by saying that this has almost nothing to do with PUA. However, as Mystery states, there is a LOT of life lessons that can be learned simply from PUA, and I agree whole-heartedly. I enjoy this forum so much because it can be used for much more than just picking up girls. That being said, I'm in need of some more social dynamic tips! My friends and I occasionally play board games that require a great deal of negotiation or manipulation per-say, such as Risk and Monopoly. I figured, hell, a lot of salesperson and social-dynamic techniques are applied when making the deals or trades within these games, meaning if one knew how to properly communicate (or negotiate), between these agreements, one could inevitably increase his or her chances of success. TLDR (Too long didn't read): Any tips, books, or words of wisdom out there from you professionals for improving my negotiation skills to get what I want, for not only social situations, but for also increasing my chances of winning in these games that require this type of negotiation? I'm sure this will bring up some interesting discussion on this topic. Thanks! |
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| Author: | Shaky [ Tue May 20, 2008 5:40 am ] |
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Hey. I am not a long time business owner, but I have learned a lot in the short time I have been. I have also been told that I could sell reading glasses to a blind man. On the other hand, I didn't sell a car in my month as a carsalesman. For some reason, my manager asked why I was giving it up. This is what I found out. One, when you are negotiating with someone, they have to be smart enough to realize a good deal. If they are not smart enough, you have to convince them that it is a good deal. This is impossible if you can't make them believe that it is. Sound confident, act confident, be confident. Don't sound desperate. If you sound desperate, then whomever you are negotiating with knows that you NEED the deal. A lot of times, even if it benefits them, they will not do it because they know it hurts you not to. Alot of times, people will turn down the initial offer, just to try to get the offer increased. Instead of increasing the offer right away. Look into back-ups even if you are willing to pay more. Then you offer a deal with soemone else, letting the person you initially tried to deal with know that you do NOT need them, even if you do. A lot of people panic here, and you can actually get them to offer you more than what you initially offered. Making them pay more for trying to get more out of you. The same tactic can be used if someone offers you a deal and you want more from them. If they turn down your counter offer, make talk with another player, and the first guy will normally up his offer. When you acknowledge this, it really becomes obvious. Then all you have to do is not be the goat. Here is a monopoly strategy for ya. Have your monopolies spread out. If you have a whole side, if they hit your first monopoly, a lot of times they will roll past the next. If you spread them out, you will get double hits a lot more often. |
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