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Author:	natedizzel1983 [ Thu May 08, 2008 7:34 am ]
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I want to set this up properly so you can understand my situation. I am a Real estate agent. For those who don't know we get hit up by title reps all the time to bring our transactions to there company. Naturally she hits me up for business and at the time I am pretty loyal to another company, however I continue to chat it up and flirt with her every time she came into the office. Finally because of her consistency I decide to give her a shot. We talk and flirt some more and then she tells me about costco hotdogs and how much she likes them and invites me to go have a hot dog. I declined at that time. A couple of weeks later in a sad attempt to make another girl jealous (bad case of oneitis) I decided to call her up and take her up on her offer. She payed. We talked and had a good time and talked about how I never golfed before. She insisted upon teaching me. I figured why the hell not. I need to get on the green and start networking. I started to think it was odd that we went to lunch and then immediately set up a time to go golf. On the drive back to the office i noticed she kept twirling and playing with the ends of her hair while in dialogue with me. Well today was the day we went to the driving range to hit some balls. She came to meet me at my office with a very low cut tee. Almost impossible not to stare at her breasts and looked very nice. We drove separate cars up since we were both heading home after the range which also has a mini-golf set up. I'll cut this short. here are the bullets: -As I am following her on the way up I notice she is doing her makeup at stoplights( which could be normal), however I notice she looked considerably more done up than before we left including lipstick. -She asked me if I wanted to drive off the top or bottom. I responded it didnt matter and that I was easy. She responded by saying "ooh" like that was a good thing for her. -She would frequently give me pointers by standing right in front of me and showing those great breasts -She was inquiring about tomorrow like she wanted to do something. My response was I am booked. -Then before we got out of the parking lot we set up to go out again next week. Here is the kicker. She has a boyfriend and everytime she talks about him(which seems pretty rare) she calls him "the boy". She already has my business and I really can't figure out why she wants to spend so much time with me other than the fact she may be interested. Am I being a pussy or just reading way to into it? I would love feedback on what your guys opinion is and/or what should i do or say to help me reveal her true intentions, without damaging the friendship. Since I do kind of enjoy just hanging out with her, but would definetely bang her. Thanks for your help. Sorry for being new

Author:	Mindhacker [ Thu May 08, 2008 8:23 am ]
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Every time I hear a story like this, I feel "Oh this time I'll remember my answer and tell myself the next time I'm unsure of her intentions" Bottom line : Don't worry about her intentions, and don't worry about where it is going to go. If you are having a good time focus on that - and have fun. On top of this promise yourself that you will systematically escalate. First touch her briefly, just a little, than touch her more. Then have her smell you, or smell her. And then just do a little kiss on the cheek or on the neck. Just for the fun of it - fun IS key here. And just when YOU feel like it, kiss her. Don't think about sex BEFORE you are having it. I hope this helps.

Author:	natedizzel1983 [ Thu May 08, 2008 3:39 pm ]
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Thanks. I appreciate the feedback.

Author:	blinkant [ Thu May 08, 2008 4:07 pm ]
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Sounds like shes defiantly into you and looks like she's doing all the work. She's even AMOG'in her own fella. Don’t rush into having sex with her, especially while shes paying and enjoy yourself with her and if anything happens, let it happen. Good Luck son

Author:	Clancey [ Thu May 08, 2008 4:30 pm ]
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They could be false IOIs because of the business relationship. I think the key is to be careful not to show too much interest. Looking down her top all day isn't going to get you anywhere...! Be aloof, and try to keep her guessing. You never know, even if they are false IOIs you can turn them into real ones with some good game. Try to get some real IOIs from here, do some compliance testing and see what she's really thinking.

Author:	natedizzel1983 [ Fri May 09, 2008 5:46 am ]
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Thank you. Everybodies feedback is much appreciated

Author:	natedizzel1983 [ Fri May 09, 2008 11:13 pm ]
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Ok. So today I call her to open up title & escrow, but I had questions. Instead of just calling me back which was requested she decides to pop in to answer my questions. I kind of just ignored her and kept working once I got the information I needed. When she left she says goodbye and blows me a kiss. Now title and escrow reps are usually flirty because they want to get business. Again, she already has my business and I have not witnessed her interacting with others the same as me. I don't know but I think she is pretty much into me. What do you guys think? What could I do to let her know I am interested without crossing any boundaries, just in case I am reading her wrong?

Author:	natedizzel1983 [ Tue May 13, 2008 4:31 am ]
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Hey guys just need to do a quick bump. I am still in a learning stage. I have noticed better results through modeling some of the techniques read on the forum. Just need a little help on this special situation. I am going to go out with her tomorrow. What I am getting from you guys is to escalate and do compliance tests? Are there any other suggestions as to how to handle this? Thanks

Author:	mcslut4 [ Tue May 13, 2008 5:01 pm ]
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i think shes into you, i completley agree with you building kino and complience and what not. my only concern is the boyfriend (as is yours) i think you should find out a little about the relationship before you try to escelate the relationship. a quicky example would be like starting up a convo about anything i guess JUST MAKE IT RELEVANT and be like, "oh, what would your boyfriend think of that?" if she is interested in you as a possible "mate", i think that she may hear some complaints about him. i hope this helps a bit, AND GOOD LUCK!

Author:	Scum17 [ Tue May 13, 2008 5:11 pm ]
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I agree with mcslut. I've seen girls with boyfriends flirt quite often to see what else is out there when things aren't going so well in their present relationship. The ebst you can do is work kino and make her feel comfortable in your presence. Once shes got that, she'll be wanting to hang with you way more then her boyfriend, which then makes your situation more favorable. My opinion is she is into you, whether its just for company or for the real deal (she wants in your pants ) . the best thing you can do is leave her with the impression and that you have more to offer then her 'boy'. In any opportunity, compliment her. Girls love the small things guys notice, ESPECIALLY when they have boyfriends. Cause they may say "oh thank you, my boyfriend would never tell/notice that on me" this = bonus marks for you

Author:	Invincible [ Tue May 13, 2008 5:18 pm ]
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I can understand your situation its similar to ours with drug reps. I can tell you that I feel she is beyond the buisness and has general interest in you, but also be careful that she is not a flirty and fun type of girl whos just playing around, but then again she asked u to hang out 2 times and already had ur buisness. Does she bring up buisness at all during these "dates"? Also forget the boyfreind doesn't seem like he matters to her don't let that get into your head at all. Hang out with her again and kino escalate, remain a challenge and aloof like you have been doing, It sounds like you are doing great, don't give her a lot back when she hits on you as you have been doing. Keep up the good work. Eventually though you are going to have to go for it. Count for 3 IoIs, kino escalate and then go for it. A good thing might be at the right moment when you feel it just look at her and be like "do you want to kiss me" And unless she says NO just go for it. Shes giving you the signals so even if you misread them which I truely don't think you did the faults in her arena for leading you on. Although I get the feeling these are geniune IOIs this is far more then I've ever seen even the sluttiest pharm reps do for us and we do dinners and such all the time. Go for it, becuase the worst is to have regrets in the future for not just going for it.

Author:	natedizzel1983 [ Thu May 15, 2008 5:17 am ]
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Seriously. You guys are all awesome. -To Invincible- Business rarely comes up. If it does it is not about our business, but more her telling me about her day and things she has accomplished. More like small talk. Yesterday we did go to the driving range again. Unforunately I did not get your comments until now. Feel free to critique: Basically it was two friends hanging out. She wasn't really flirty as usual. I think I may have accidentally sent her an IOD last week before and may have calmed her approach a little. I was behind her at the range. And she said " Sometimes its fun golfing with a lefty because you can look and talk to eachother." As corny as it sounds( this was also a test) I said "I don't know I kind of actually enjoy the view this way." She turned he and smiled. " Now the only thought running through your head is he is looking at my ass." She responded that I was right with a smirk. -i feel like I should have followed up here. Should I have? Later she is watching my swing and I totally fuck up. I looked at her and told said "you got me excited" She says " I have that affect on people" "Yeah but it is more exciting watching you swing" (This sounds real corny now that I am writing it) What do you think? This was all very playful she never showed she was upset by my comments and they were mainly more for testing purposes rather than compliments. Later after two buckets of balls she says " I can go for another bucket but I have to go." I simply ask why she "had" to go? "Because "the boy" will wonder where I am at." (this is the kicker) "He doesn't live with me but, he will wonder what I am doing." If I read this right she wanted me to know that her boyfriend doesn't live with her. Am I right? Also sounds like he already doesn't trust her either. In my opinion, and I think I am pretty decent at reading people, i think she is into me. We already have next week set up to do it again. I know what kino is but I want to be natural and not feel forceful. My friend and his girlfriend keep telling me to just slap her ass playfully. Do you feel this is proper or should a more suddle form of kino be used? Thanks again guys. You are the masters and I love your input.

Author:	scuglass [ Thu May 15, 2008 6:37 pm ]
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What has the physical contact been like in these interactions... it is important for her to get the vibe that you are confident and naturally very physical with people in your life. I think shes totally into you, just keep pushing and go balls to the wall... she has a boyfriend but is still hanging out with you, basically you have nothing to lose. Forget him, most hotties will be dating multiple guys at the same time just as you will most likely be dating multiple women... just pretend hes another guy and ignore him all together. You should try to bounce to another location after golf even just for a coffee. When she says i have to go cause the boy.. just be like forget him im more fun... something like this may work.... Just keep learning and seeing what works for you, remember the outcome doesnt matter.. just that you learn something and have fun while doing it.

Author:	natedizzel1983 [ Fri May 16, 2008 4:35 am ]
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physical contact not much from me because I am pussy and I am afraid. However I have been studying kino because I see this as my week point at the moment. I kind of see it as practice as well, regardless of the outcome. But there has not been much physical contact from her either and I kind think that may be my fault as well. Last week when we left the range she told me is was cold and then said feel as she put the back of her hand against my cheek. Me still being the AFC that I am had a million thoughts race through my mind at that second and did not play it very cool. She even asked me if I was OK seconds after that. I replied I was good and smirked. I don't really know how well I played it off but I think I fucked up here and made her feel a little uneasy about her touching me again. So yeah. Great questions. It is helping me to realize my flaws. Keep'em coming you guys have really helped a lot so far.

Author:	natedizzel1983 [ Fri May 16, 2008 6:58 pm ]
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Should I use any boyfriend destroyers. I have been reading about these also and I am not sure if this is the right situation to use it. I was thinking about complimenting her on how much her boyfriend must appreciate her or something like to try and feel out what there relationship is like and/or maybe show she is more appreciated in my presence versus "the boys". Do you think this is a good or bad idea given my situation?

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