PUA Forum :: She flakes. I next her. She reinitiates contact.

From that point till Friday we only exchange a couple of quick flirty texts, basically a role play about her being my Tinder wife and me being too big of a catch for her.

Friday noon I text her with "Hey wifey, I suggest bar x at 10pm". She replies two hours later with "Hi Mat, how are you?" (wtf?). I reply "Fine, you?". No reply. I set up another date with another girl and forget about this one.

Three days later she texts me: "Hello". Wondering if I did any stupid shit to trigger her flaky behavior in the first place. Also, wondering if I should bother to reply and what. Thanks for any advice you may have.

Hi guys, I'd appreciate any feedback on this...

I match with a girl on Tinder, the vibe is fun and I get her number. We switch to text and, for some reason, she's not that receptive anymore, so I quickly hit her with "Hey, this texting thing is retarded, let's meet for drinks on Wednesday and talk like normal people". She says she's down and is free on Thursday and Friday. I say cool, Friday.

From that point till Friday we only exchange a couple of quick flirty texts, basically a role play about her being my Tinder wife and me being too big of a catch for her. Friday noon I text her with "Hey wifey, I suggest bar x at 10pm". She replies two hours later with "Hi Mat, how are you?" (wtf?). I reply "Fine, you?". No reply. I set up another date with another girl and forget about this one.

Three days later she texts me: "Hello". Wondering if I did any stupid shit to trigger her flaky behavior in the first place. Also, wondering if I should bother to reply and what. Thanks for any advice you may have.

"Hey wifey, I suggest bar x at 10pm". She replies two hours later with "Hi Mat, how are you?" (wtf?).

Assuming a woman whom you've never met as "mentally challenged" simply because she doesn't comply 100% with you is a misogynistic and toxic viewpoint.

You'd be better off analyzing if there is something you could have done better, because in the end, that's the only factor you can control. Apply what you learn to the next woman you're attracted to.

You'll hear from a lot of guys about how the girl who dumped them or flaked on them is "crazy". When in reality, the woman just lost attraction, and her indecision and pulling away looks erratic to the man who is being scorned. When in reality, she's perfectly happy and stable to other people in her life.

"She was crazy" is often heard from guys who don't do well with women (usually because they are unable to control their emotions, or bring too much negativity). I have nothing but warmth for the lovers I've had in my life, and wish them well.

The OP didn't make any demands of her.

He even said that he suggested a place to meet...not made a demand for her to comply to.

Keep in mind she said that she was down to meet Thursday or Friday originally. This is not normal or acceptable behavior for a man with standards.

It doesn't make someone a misogynist or have a toxic viewpoint if you wonder if a girl that acts abnormally may have a mental issue.

A man who has options simply doesn't care about a woman being weird. He moves on, and doesn't call her "crazy" because he knows how women work.

"Hey wifey, I suggest bar x at 10pm". She replies two hours later with "Hi Mat, how are you?" (wtf?).

I know the OP didn't. My comment referenced R.C.'s "she's crazy" comment.

What post are you reading? The OP never demanded anything. But R.C. inferred she was crazy because she wasn't 100% in compliance with the meet up. That's what my comment addressed.

A man who has options simply doesn't care about a woman being weird. He moves on, and doesn't call her "crazy" because he knows how women work.

Oh yes it does. It's a lazy way out, and a form of denial and ego protection. When a girl gets flaky, it doesn't mean she's crazy, lol.

Your use of quotes around "she's crazy" is dishonest in itself. He asked, "Is she mentally challenged? Because she sounds mentally challenged." The words "she's crazy" was never said.

Just so you understand, compliance is following through with a demand.

What's sad is that women can do no wrong in your eyes. It's always the fault of the man when you criticize them unless they follow your specific instruction, then the problem is the girl.

Uh, "crazy" is implied when you call someone "mentally challenged".

It's also following through with a wish, proposal (a date), or desire. Your vocabulary sucks, Jack.

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What's sad is that women can do no wrong in your eyes. It's always the fault of the man when you criticize them unless they follow your specific instruction, then the problem is the girl.

Yes, because this is a forum dedicated to picking up women, and women do most of the dumping/flaking because most men are socially inept.

Assuming a woman whom you've never met as "mentally challenged" simply because she doesn't comply 100% with you is a misogynistic and toxic viewpoint.

Author:	Matias1977 [ Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:28 pm ]
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Hi guys, I'd appreciate any feedback on this... I match with a girl on Tinder, the vibe is fun and I get her number. We switch to text and, for some reason, she's not that receptive anymore, so I quickly hit her with "Hey, this texting thing is retarded, let's meet for drinks on Wednesday and talk like normal people". She says she's down and is free on Thursday and Friday. I say cool, Friday. From that point till Friday we only exchange a couple of quick flirty texts, basically a role play about her being my Tinder wife and me being too big of a catch for her. Friday noon I text her with "Hey wifey, I suggest bar x at 10pm". She replies two hours later with "Hi Mat, how are you?" (wtf?). I reply "Fine, you?". No reply. I set up another date with another girl and forget about this one. Three days later she texts me: "Hello". Wondering if I did any stupid shit to trigger her flaky behavior in the first place. Also, wondering if I should bother to reply and what. Thanks for any advice you may have.

Author:	masterm1ne [ Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:36 pm ]
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What's the problem with texting her to meet at a certain place and time, while doing other productive things in the meantime including searching for other friends/people to talk to? Especially not worry about when or how she responds.

Author:	Arch Stanton [ Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:59 pm ]
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Quote: From that point till Friday we only exchange a couple of quick flirty texts, basically a role play about her being my Tinder wife and me being too big of a catch for her. That sounds so contrived. Quote: Friday noon I text her with "Hey wifey, I suggest bar x at 10pm". She replies two hours later with "Hi Mat, how are you?" (wtf?). I reply "Fine, you?". No reply. I set up another date with another girl and forget about this one. "Wifey"? Never use that word. When I hear "wifey" and "hubby", I just think of fat white people. Quote: Three days later she texts me: "Hello". Wondering if I did any stupid shit to trigger her flaky behavior in the first place. Also, wondering if I should bother to reply and what. Thanks for any advice you may have. Her date that she blew you off for must have sucked, haha. Don't reply for at least a week. when you do, treat her like she deserves to be treated: "Hey XXX, drinks at Netflix at my place tonight, 9."

Author:	JackZero [ Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:40 pm ]
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Don't worry OP, Arch hates just about everything. Personally, I wouldn't respond at all because I hate women like this. She knew what she was doing when she changed the subject when it came to meeting up so any type of her reestablishing contact wouldn't mean anything because I already see how she operates.

Author:	ChocolatePUA [ Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:17 pm ]
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Quote: Hi guys, I'd appreciate any feedback on this... I match with a girl on Tinder, the vibe is fun and I get her number. We switch to text and, for some reason, she's not that receptive anymore, so I quickly hit her with "Hey, this texting thing is retarded, let's meet for drinks on Wednesday and talk like normal people". She says she's down and is free on Thursday and Friday. I say cool, Friday. From that point till Friday we only exchange a couple of quick flirty texts, basically a role play about her being my Tinder wife and me being too big of a catch for her. Friday noon I text her with "Hey wifey, I suggest bar x at 10pm". She replies two hours later with "Hi Mat, how are you?" (wtf?). I reply "Fine, you?". No reply. I set up another date with another girl and forget about this one. Three days later she texts me: "Hello". Wondering if I did any stupid shit to trigger her flaky behavior in the first place. Also, wondering if I should bother to reply and what. Thanks for any advice you may have. She's an attention seeker. There's a slight possibility that you haven't worked on the comfort enough - she was happy enough to say yes, but not quite "there" to actually meet.

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Author:	R.C [ Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:03 am ]
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Quote: "Hey wifey, I suggest bar x at 10pm". She replies two hours later with "Hi Mat, how are you?" (wtf?). Is she mentally challenged? Because she sounds mentally challenged. Either way, OP, women like this don't deserve a thread.

Author:	Matias1977 [ Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:38 pm ]
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Got it. Thanks for the help, folks.

Author:	Arch Stanton [ Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:55 pm ]
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Assuming a woman whom you've never met as "mentally challenged" simply because she doesn't comply 100% with you is a misogynistic and toxic viewpoint. You'd be better off analyzing if there is something you could have done better, because in the end, that's the only factor you can control. Apply what you learn to the next woman you're attracted to. You'll hear from a lot of guys about how the girl who dumped them or flaked on them is "crazy". When in reality, the woman just lost attraction, and her indecision and pulling away looks erratic to the man who is being scorned. When in reality, she's perfectly happy and stable to other people in her life. "She was crazy" is often heard from guys who don't do well with women (usually because they are unable to control their emotions, or bring too much negativity). I have nothing but warmth for the lovers I've had in my life, and wish them well.

Author:	JackZero [ Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:03 pm ]
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Quote: Assuming a woman whom you've never met as "mentally challenged" simply because she doesn't comply 100% with you is a misogynistic and toxic viewpoint. This is a ridiculous statement because no one questioned her compliance. The OP didn't make any demands of her. He even said that he suggested a place to meet...not made a demand for her to comply to. She didn't get back to him for a few hours and ignored that he made the suggestion and asked how he was doing. When he replied, she ignored him but contacts him a few days later like he never made the suggestion of meeting at bar x at 10pm. Keep in mind she said that she was down to meet Thursday or Friday originally. This is not normal or acceptable behavior for a man with standards. It doesn't make someone a misogynist or have a toxic viewpoint if you wonder if a girl that acts abnormally may have a mental issue. Quote: You'd be better off analyzing if there is something you could have done better, because in the end, that's the only factor you can control. Apply what you learn to the next woman you're attracted to. You'll hear from a lot of guys about how the girl who dumped them or flaked on them is "crazy". When in reality, the woman just lost attraction, and her indecision and pulling away looks erratic to the man who is being scorned. When in reality, she's perfectly happy and stable to other people in her life. "She was crazy" is often heard from guys who don't do well with women (usually because they are unable to control their emotions, or bring too much negativity). I have nothing but warmth for the lovers I've had in my life, and wish them well. You see what you're doing here? You're willing to justify this one specific woman's bad behavior to try to make another guy look bad. Most of the time we will let a guy know that flakes happen and it's part of the process for all guys even if they are good with women and you'd be hard pressed to find another instance where the woman's sanity/character is in question. You are so hellbent on trying to bring everyone else down that point out the absurdities in the things that you say that you'll fuck someone else's thinking up just to make that happen. You'd prefer a guy be a doormat just so you can insult R.C by making up a story about how guys call girls that dumped/flake on a guy are crazy. Aren't there posts here on this forum before you became the forum asshole where girls flaked/dumped you and people placed the blame directly on your actions? I can provide links to jog your memory if you don't want to answer that question honestly. Again, don't expect you to respond to what has been presented and fully expect you to either ignore, start talking about things that haven't been said, or just go on a rant about how I or anyone else on the forum do not get girls.

Author:	Arch Stanton [ Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:25 pm ]
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Quote: The OP didn't make any demands of her. I know the OP didn't. My comment referenced R.C.'s "she's crazy" comment. Quote: He even said that he suggested a place to meet...not made a demand for her to comply to. What post are you reading? The OP never demanded anything. But R.C. inferred she was crazy because she wasn't 100% in compliance with the meet up. That's what my comment addressed. Quote: Keep in mind she said that she was down to meet Thursday or Friday originally. This is not normal or acceptable behavior for a man with standards. A man who has options simply doesn't care about a woman being weird. He moves on, and doesn't call her "crazy" because he knows how women work. Quote: It doesn't make someone a misogynist or have a toxic viewpoint if you wonder if a girl that acts abnormally may have a mental issue. Oh yes it does. It's a lazy way out, and a form of denial and ego protection. When a girl gets flaky, it doesn't mean she's crazy, lol.

Author:	neo87 [ Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:53 pm ]
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Quote: A man who has options simply doesn't care about a woman being weird. He moves on, and doesn't call her "crazy" because he knows how women work. He didnt call her crazy because she was flaky. He quoted: Quote: "Hey wifey, I suggest bar x at 10pm". She replies two hours later with "Hi Mat, how are you?" (wtf?). Which is crazy because she accepted a date invite, then responds with Hi How are you? to him saying 10pm. It's not about flaking, its her non related responses. Please Arch, Im begging you, please read and understand what someone is saying before responding. Shit gets annoying to see responses to something unrelated and the context is clearly identified. Flaking is one thing. Writing how are you when you're flaking = crazy. Man, woman or child.

Author:	JackZero [ Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:00 pm ]
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Quote: I know the OP didn't. My comment referenced R.C.'s "she's crazy" comment. But R.C didn't question compliance. Your use of quotes around "she's crazy" is dishonest in itself. He asked, "Is she mentally challenged? Because she sounds mentally challenged." The words "she's crazy" was never said. You made that up to try to make him look bad. It's like when people ask if you're crazy Arch. It doesn't mean that there's a dislike of people who live in the backwoods. Quote: What post are you reading? The OP never demanded anything. But R.C. inferred she was crazy because she wasn't 100% in compliance with the meet up. That's what my comment addressed. Just so you understand, compliance is following through with a demand. R.C didn't question her compliance, he questioned why she was treating the OP the way that she did. He didn't say because she didn't meet up with him she wasn't being compliant. You're adding shit that didn't happen. Quote: A man who has options simply doesn't care about a woman being weird. He moves on, and doesn't call her "crazy" because he knows how women work. You're doing it again. You're using strawman tactics. This is an issue between the OP and the woman and not between R.C and the woman. The OP asked for thoughts on this situation and R.C asked a question to make the OP think. R.C isn't worried about her being weird so that doesn't imply that he doesn't know women. Even with what you say, R.C stated this woman doesn't deserve a thread. You like to infer misogyny on something that wasn't said, why didn't you infer that R.C is telling the OP not to worry about it and move on? You will twist and turn everything just to try to make someone else look bad. Quote: Oh yes it does. It's a lazy way out, and a form of denial and ego protection. When a girl gets flaky, it doesn't mean she's crazy, lol. Not only are you wrong but this is the exclamation point on how dishonest you are. I spoke about how this is one instance on this forum that I know of where a girl's mental state has been questioned but you carefully snip out the context of the entire post so you can focus on one sentence. Like I said earlier, R.C has answered a post by you wondering why a girl flaked on you and he didn't blame the woman or call her crazy. He blamed the person at fault and that was you. He has told guys in the past that flaking is part of the game. In this specific case (I repeat this specific case), he questioned a girl's mentality because she wasn't acting normal. At least you're at the point of knowing that this girl was acting "weird" and even though you acknowledge it, you still advised the OP to wait a week to contact her and treat her like she deserves instead of "move on". It's dishonest. What's sad is that women can do no wrong in your eyes. It's always the fault of the man when you criticize them unless they follow your specific instruction, then the problem is the girl.

Author:	Arch Stanton [ Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:24 pm ]
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Quote: Your use of quotes around "she's crazy" is dishonest in itself. He asked, "Is she mentally challenged? Because she sounds mentally challenged." The words "she's crazy" was never said. Uh, "crazy" is implied when you call someone "mentally challenged". Quote: Just so you understand, compliance is following through with a demand. It's also following through with a wish, proposal (a date), or desire. Your vocabulary sucks, Jack. Quote: What's sad is that women can do no wrong in your eyes. It's always the fault of the man when you criticize them unless they follow your specific instruction, then the problem is the girl. Yes, because this is a forum dedicated to picking up women, and women do most of the dumping/flaking because most men are socially inept.

Author:	JackZero [ Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:54 pm ]
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Quote: Uh, "crazy" is implied when you call someone "mentally challenged". Did he ask if she was or did he call her mentally challenged? Quote: It's also following through with a wish, proposal (a date), or desire. Your vocabulary sucks, Jack. Let's go with this and say she wasn't being 100% compliant? What does that have to do with her ignoring him when it came down to the date that she agreed to when he made the "wish, proposal" and instead asked how he was doing? When he answered she ignored him for three days and then reinitiated contact. What does that have to do with misogyny because he questions one girl? Since misogyny is the dislike of women, you contend that asking if that this ONE woman may be mentally challenged means that R.C dislikes all women? You have to understand that your allegation is idiotic right? You do understand that if more guys quit trying to give women who act like assholes free passes when they act immature and discourteous that men would not be dumped as much. Your advice of bend over and take it is the reason that a lot of guys have the problems that they do. Give her a week before you respond is nothing but playing games and you end up playing by her rules. A guy that values himself over a woman would never say any bullshit like that. Quote: Quote: What's sad is that women can do no wrong in your eyes. It's always the fault of the man when you criticize them unless they follow your specific instruction, then the problem is the girl. Yes, because this is a forum dedicated to picking up women, and women do most of the dumping/flaking because most men are socially inept. This is why you are the weakest regular poster on this forum because you believe women can do no wrong. It also points out your narcissism if you believe that women won't dump you if men follow your specific instruction.

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Author:	R.C [ Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:53 am ]
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Quote: Assuming a woman whom you've never met as "mentally challenged" simply because she doesn't comply 100% with you is a misogynistic and toxic viewpoint. For the record, Arch, replies like that make me question whether you're mentally challenged too. Am I a misandrist yet?