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Author:  Sunshine_88 [ Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:43 pm ]
Post subject:  How long do you give a girl to show IOIs?

So after opening an attractive woman, how much do you attempt to keep the conversation rolling? For example, let's say you ask her 2 or 3 questions, she answers all of them but still hasn't asked you anything. Her effort in continuing the conversation is zilch. Do you keep asking her more questions or do you just write the woman off as not interested and move along? Women think it's creepy when you stick around longer than they want you to so what do you guys do?

Author:  Eddie Fews [ Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How long do you give a girl to show IOIs?

If a woman is not interested what difference does it make if she thinks you're creepy? And why are you basing what you should do or not do around the standards you believe women are setting for you? How do you know that she's not going to feel like a creep because some attractive, fun, loving, cool guy approached her and she had no idea how to handle it? How do you know she's not suffering from anxiety from not knowing what to say?

Guys have to take women off these pedestals in which we feel like they're the masters of our fate, and or they're not just as susceptible to feeling like they're weirdos just as much as we are. They have worries, fears, and negative emotions as well. It ain't all about "THEM".

You're out to find the women that YOU gel with. You're not going to get every single women you approach. So you must cultivate an approach and a dialog so that you can find the types of women you enjoy being around. So if you're a talkative guy/curious, do you want to deal with women who don't like to listen or answer questions? Become your own standard and find the women that YOU want. Be so cool that they conform to YOU and not the other way around. When I approach women, I approach how I want to approach, and talk about the shit that Im interested in talking about. I have the value. It's not about them yet. I'll be charming and funny, but im in control of the direction. And if they're not into it, then perhaps they're just not for me. But there are tons and tons of women out there that are for me.

Author:  guyfriendly [ Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How long do you give a girl to show IOIs?

I like this answer. Total confidence right there!

Author:  ChocolatePUA [ Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How long do you give a girl to show IOIs?

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So after opening an attractive woman, how much do you attempt to keep the conversation rolling? For example, let's say you ask her 2 or 3 questions, she answers all of them but still hasn't asked you anything. Her effort in continuing the conversation is zilch. Do you keep asking her more questions or do you just write the woman off as not interested and move along? Women think it's creepy when you stick around longer than they want you to so what do you guys do?
If you have to "attempt to keep the conversation rolling" then you're doing something wrong.

For me, the key to being successful is to have women being as interested in the interaction as you are.

If your conversation/interaction is stagnant, you should NOT be asking whether to continue or not.

What you SHOULD be asking is:
1. Why is this person not interacting?
2. What signals is she sending? Is she actively disinterested (intentionally showing signs of disinterest), passively disinterested (showing unintentional but natural signs of disinterest, such as checking phone, short answers, etc) or neutral?

If she is ACTIVELY disinterested I would bail and move on.

If PASSIVELY disinterested I may stick in, CHANGE my approach, seek commonalities to establish rapport and interest, tease, get her laughing etc and see if I can escalate.

If neutral then I would probably do all of the above as well.

Author:  DJ_Z [ Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How long do you give a girl to show IOIs?

Are you creating an immersive experience or just asking her where she is from?

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