Hey guys. I'm new to the board, but I've been practicing PUA stuff (mainly a lot of AMOGing techniques, and C/F, not so much following a specific pattern as. M3, etc.) for about 6 months. In some ways, great success, in some ways not so much. I did an interesting pickup a few days ago, and I need some advice on it, but first I'd like to give some background info.
I'm a brit, but right now I live in America. I'm 17, although nobody in america -- not bosses, not friends, not coworkers, nobody -- knows that: I tell everyone I'm 21, and I have perfect fake ID's to prove it.
It sounds weird, but I might as well be 21. I'm at the stage in life of a college grad (I have done some college, but I'm already working proffesional salaried jobs), everyone guesses I'm mid 20s when I ask my age, and nobody, except family and now you guys, knows my real age.
I also look a lot older than I am, probably because I'm in pretty good shape (not great, but ok... 14" arms, 4pack abs), and am considered extremely mature. (Doing salaried IT work since 16 yrs old.) I was home schooled through early high school, but ran away from home right after turning 16. Lived on the streets for a few months, fought my way to england for a few months of college, and now I'm back in the states. In some ways I'd say I tend to have some natural advantages. I'm generally considered good looking (9.7 on hotornot), average height (5"11), and considered very cocky and funny (and sometimes an annoying jerk).
Been doing PUA shit for a few months. Generally success is good, although the fact that I'm so insanely busy (literally too busy to date, as insane as it sounds) has led to a lot less closes than succesful PU's. (In other words, I've slept with 4 girls, all average looking, vs. like 15 number closes).
Now, I'm finally getting some normalcy (I don't work weekends anymore, and I'm planning to improve my game.) Anyhow... pick up 5 days ago, at work:
I'm at one of my several jobs --a sales agent in a mall. Pretty good for 'sarging', since girls end up approaching me (or I approach them, but with the ever present theme of a supposed sale).
A HB8.5 walks by, with 2 male friends.l She's a european, Bulgarian, so that makes reading body language harder. I can't tell for sure if either are her boyfriend (initial body language says no to me, but I can't tell for sure). I approach, greet all 3, and offer to demonstrate a product I'm selling (cosmetics... gay I know). She says yes, we start. I start flirting, very lightly (flirty looks, slow massage, rather than the businesslike 'put a little cream in her hand' that I should do), and confirm that neither guy is her BF. They both leave to go elsewhere, confirming my thoughts.
Now, overall this should, I'd say, be a bad game, since I complimented her way too much, and negged way too little (initially I wasn't reeally trying for a pickup). But here's how it went: As I'm still playing the 'salesman' role, a guy friend of mine, who was with me, by chance, is leaving, and as he goes (he's ex special forces, a european guy, heavy accent. Short but muscular), says to her "damn, you know, you are very beautiful", smiles and leaves. I'm standing massaging cream into her hand, and she pauses for a second, as do I. I say "Don't mind him. He's italian. [beat] Besides... you ARE hot."
She blushes. I'm laughing, being pretty playful. Touching a lot, but not sexual per se... hands, arm, shoulder, back a little, ... me: "ohh! I made a hot girl blush.. nice. " I think I high5'ed her, can't remember.
I notice she's tall, ask if she's a model. She says no. I tell her she should be. I ask if she's considered modellign, she says no. I say "wow, you are stupid" [but in a very playful way]. "You know, it's said there's an inverse correlation between looks and intelligence [pause]... you do know what 'inverse correlation' means, right?"
Now, for the next 20 minutes, it's basically random talk. Every now and then I'm pointing out how hot she is, and how many heads are turning for her. (earleir she'd said she's not hot enough to model.)
Now, I own a moderately large fashion website, and I have connections in the fashion business (low level, but true... some agents, some photographers), so I'm kinda playing like "I can make you a model." She's givign me a LOT of IOIs -- slanted head, occasional triangle look etc. I up touch-factor, as we're discussing modelling, I tell her to turn around, look her up and down: hair, back, arse, legs, and she knows that's what I was doing. "yeah, good body... you coiuld definitely model". Same with the front (face, tits, belly).
I'm kinda being an asshole, and I know.
Hadn't intended a pickup, but it was going surprisingly well considering how much I WASNT playing. So I'm touching her shoulder/neck, and hand, more or less holding. I keep talking. She's standing uber-sexy, model like, which I tell her. And say that's why she should be a model. And how much she awes me, because it's so unusual to see a girl with confidence, taste, class, AND beauty. (kinda true).
Keep ttalking (as a fill in, if a conversation is 'cooling' in terms of sensuality, I often fill in by looking at a passer by and saying he checked yuou out, or he was looking at you: this seems to be useful in any circumstance... it resumes some sexual content in the convo).
Then I tell her to turn to the profile (see if she is hot enough to model), she does. In fact I'm lightly touching her face, nudging her around. I'm kinda over-dominating her. I say she has a big nose (slightly hurt her), then said "not too big though... we'll just have to use telephoto."
Somehow she mentions an 'ex-boyfriend', I say 'ex?', she says 'yeah', I say 'you haven't got a BF?!'... 'you're not dangerous are you...? man... this is my lucky day. You're a model, you date me. Imagine how cool it will be to say my GF is a model!', kinda high 5 her again. It's a very bouncy, laughy, high kino convo.
I continue overanalyzing her body language, calling it very forward, and accusing her of hitting on me, which she doesn't deny. She seems pretty easy, honestly. She asks how I know all this body language shit and I say how I took acting classes (I did).
Now, I've never really done this before, but it was worth a try. She definitely thought I had a lot of girlfriends, and viewed me in high esteem (girls, true... social rank... not really). Some chick walks by, gives me a dirty look. I know this girl. I met her 3 weeks ago on a wednesday, and took her home and fucked her on thursday. Very averaage girl, and next morning she's bitching saying she feels like a slut et al. Basically she hates me now.
The HB says "who was that", I tell her the story, she goes like "phwoaa" (as in a kinda "awe"/"whoaa" look). She says "player..." I say "I wish... you know, if you want to talk about player, you ought to know this friend I have on facebook... he's been on tv talking about... [Richard Gambler... so does like 1000 guys, anyone can add him, but I dont say that.]" Her: "You have FACEBOOK?!" (a definite way of saying FUCKING ADD ME!), I say "yes, [my name], [my city], presuming she'll add me." Then I take her name and number in case I can't find her.
We keep talking for a bit, not much else, other than her dreams of modelling, how I can help her get there (kinda true, but exaggerated), how I have pics of adriana lima that nobody else has seen (true -- I have connections with family friends), and so on. She keeps UBER IOIs... almost fuck me looks. All in all she stood talking for like 4 or 5 hours. Then her guy friend comes and takes her away, I say something like he's lucky to know her, he says 'i know' somehow I say how I got her number (in front of her), [jokingly], he high fives me, same with another guy. After she left, 4 guys (who I dont know) independently said something like "damn nice job", "nice pickup" or similar.
I add her on facebook. It takes her 5 days to approve my request, and I think she's given me limited profile. Where from now? That was odd behaviour but apparently just hard-to-get shit. Now, think I should be very "let's go on a date"-like. Just call her and ask her out (it's been a few days since she added me. I know not to call right off, if she's being hard to get. desperation is unhot). Or should I facebook message and continue the "I'll give you a model agen'ts number" line, etc. Any ideas? Any comments?
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You have to be careful about not sounding needy when you are leaving longer messages, though.