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Author:  Ginging [ Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Grown up by women + without a father = problems in pick up
Hey guys, first post here. I'm not new to pick up game, doing this since years
I really don't want to make a super ultra long post cause I want to get as much replies as possible.

This topic is exclusively for those who grown up with women and without a father. It may be a weird statement, right? But I need to know if this gave you a seriously hard time in this game.

I repeat again: if you didn't grow fatherless this topic is not for you.

Did you have or had particular problems in the game due to this fact?

I personally doing decently but currently obtaining like 10% of what I could get due to a huge approx anxiety that has NEVER gone away. Together with a friend which is a great psychologist with years of experience, this could be due to a fucked up sensibility caused by the way someone without a father grows up. Especially if that someone is been grow up by women.

Despite my anxiety I'm way above 50+ approaches and my results are not bad. However every single time is like the first time. It's a pain in the ass to be honest. Cause I approach 1 or 2 girls, when for example I could do 5. Sometimes in certain situations I don't approach at all and I'm filled with regret of course.

Despite this my approach/f-close ratio is pretty high. I don't have complains on what comes AFTER the approach :)

So this is the question if you have been grow up by women: how do you deal with your approach anxiety in this game? Is every single time a huge pain for you just like me despite decent results?
Author:  BlackWillyWonka [ Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grown up by women + without a father = problems in pick
I have father, but he is sailor (most of time not at home) so I am pretty much raised by women. If you say you are good you are probably better at this than me, but I always had to gather all of my balls for approach, though after approach it is much better than before. Thats why I assume we have the same problem. Might be the coincidence though. Wanna hear what PROs say to this ))
Author:  PUALearning2PUA [ Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grown up by women + without a father = problems in pick
I think it's kind of the opposite. Girls raised without fathers become sluts because they look for a father figure, guys raised without mothers never have women in their lives because they're used to it. Most of the guys I knew that had alot of girls grew up in single mother homes with a sister or 2.
Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Grown up by women + without a father = problems in pick
I grew up without a father throughout most of my formative years and onwards. Mom ran an 8-bed dormitory for college girls and lady professionals to make ends meet. I basically knew at a very young age that girls are a horny lot and are prone to cheating because of this experience.

My disadvantage with this set up was that I was too sheltered and grew up in a household that was too emotional. Having gotten tired of the endless nagging and drama in a household full of women, I asserted my independence and went on a rampage to do manly things.

Did I have approach anxiety? Of course, I did. And even until now, I still do on certain occassions.

How did I overcome most of my approach anxiety? I just went ahead and approached many girls everyday.
Author:  Stoliar [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grown up by women + without a father = problems in pick
Stop looking for excuses. Yes it might be harder for you than for someone who grew up with a father or a brother who taught him how to be an alpha. But complaining about that, or even realizing that's the case, is not gonna help you. So just deal with it. Be social as fuck, and talk to just about everybody.

And if you think you're having a social disorder or consequent proportion, seek medical help.
Author:  Ginging [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grown up by women + without a father = problems in pick
Thanks for the reply hopefully more in the same situation will write again. It's interesting to see how our path in this is similar or not.

BTW I'm here to understand and not to look for excuses lol.
I'm already doing a lot of approaches. However what I'm telling you is that in my case clearly approax anxiety yes it's diminished a little bit, but like from 100 I went to 90 in a lot of totally cold approaches.

The f-closes + a lot of other positive things about my life didn't changed that a little bit.

However I repeat I'm doing great after the cold approach. I had a coach that helped me a lot in raising my success and I'm doing fine.

So my focus is in the anxiety not because I'm a newbie who started yesterday, I'm writing this because I already digged a lot.

And what I discovered from different sources is that, since I grow up in an extremely protective environment with women only I have a fucked up sensibility.

And nope is not something you can cure in 1,2,3. Cause that same thing helps me A LOT in understanding women in the other moments and it's the same thing that gave me a lot of great moments.

So I just want to see and read how is it going to people that been there in a similar situation of mine. I don't care about "pros" at all and I don't need a coach lol.

It's just curiosity to see people with a similar backstory and personality.
Author:  ManInTheMiddle [ Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Grown up by women + without a father = problems in pick
I have grown with father, but this did not help me to be good with girls at all :)
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