People have some silly views about us being a secret society in my opinion. We're not secret and we haven't been since long before I became a PUA. The very first time I heard about pickup, was 4 years ago when on the end of an online quiz and hundreds of other ones on that site and many others, there was a final question; something to the effect of, "Are you happy with your success with women? Would you like to be more successful?" If you answered 'Yes', then you were sent to David DeAngelo's website for Double Your Dating.
People blame Mystery for the VH1 show. DeAngelo exposed me and tons of people that took those quizes, as it is a fairly popular dating site, years before that. Around the same time, a best selling book that you may have heard of came out, called The Game. I'm pretty sure it's sold millions of copies, yet when I ask anyone I've talked to about pickup and that have heard of this book, they have no clue about the VH1 show.
It's out there and it's been out there for a while. Who cares who brought it to light first, it doesn't matter at this point. There is a general concensus in the community though, that pre-packaged material is going out of style, because it is so exposed and because even if they haven't heard that line, they may recognize the concepts. Yet Style and Mystery were in Vegas I believe with one of the members of the forum and they used all the stuff from the super popular books and they had no problems the whole night.
I've used some canned material recently for fun. I typically just use natural game, but canned stuff fits in well sometimes and it's just like playing a fun little game. The girls have even told me they knew that one, or said, "Oh my god! They used that on Keys to the VIP!" (another one no one blames for exposure) and they laugh, cause we're having fun and that's what it's all about. They don't care that I used 5 Lies on them, cause it's just a game, just like so many other socially acceptable games that people play all the time to get more aquanted and have some fun.
Personally, I get a kick from telling girls exactly what I do. I tell them I'm out running a workshop on how to improve your social skills and they love it. They wish every guy would take my course and they tell me how I'm doing the world a favor, then they give me their number.
Sure, you made some big mistakes in how you went about discussing it, you were definitely not using the skills you learned as a PUA while discussing it, or you would have handled it much better and not attacked them, but as far as betraying PUAs and Mankind, you're off the hook. Sleep well tonight. Just stop being an asshole that people don't like, be an asshole that girls love, because it's all in fun and you're really a good guy underneath.
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