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Author:  santos_br [ Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:45 pm ]
Post subject:  COMPLETE ROUTINE - looking for evaluation.

Hello!

I've been posting for a few days and finally i came up with a routine.

The girl is from my college and she makes lots of EC with me everyday. She also gives IOI's. Unfortunately, I've never talked to her. I know she knows I'm interested in her because one of her friends heard while I was talking to a friend (nothing relevant but she knows).

So, in such a fcked up context, I needed to make up a very nice routine.

There will be a college party in a few weeks and some young girlfriends I have asked for false Id's so they can drink alcohol (very common).. they are also friends with this girl I want (HB9).

Here's the routine:

STAGE 1:

By the beggining of the party, I will approach my friends who will be with her as usual and I will say in a CF way "are you already making a bad use of your new Id's?". After that I'll ask the HB9 "are you in on it as well?"
if she says yes, I reply with "I'm among criminals" and if it's no I say "I thought you were"
then I'll give some DHV's and disqualify myself by pointing that I'm gay.. At some point they'll ask me if I'll go to the dancing floor and I'll say "i'll wait for my boyfriend" also in a very CF way. Then I'll leave them when a friend calls me to help him (I planned it =)

STAGE 2:

I'll aproach the HB9 and say "you are so rude!" she'll be like WTF? and I'll say "you've seen me a million times and had plenty of chances but you've never talked to me!" ... of course in a very CF way. Then, I'll get her attention and isolate her.

OR

I'll approach the HB9 and say "how do you expect me to talk to you if you don't make a move? you see.. I'm not like that.. first you'll have to show me who you are" and then I'll get her attention and isolate her

WHAT IS BETTER?

STAGE 3:

Creating comfort.

STAGE 4:

The K-Close. I'll interrupt her while she's speaking and say: "you see, it was very nice to meet you tonight.. I'm noticing you are different. don't get me wrong.. you are beautiful but that is common. what makes you stand out is this amazing energy you have.." maintain eye contact, smile.. If she smiles back and holds EC, I'll say "let me try something.. close your eyes" she will be like "omg .. fuck" and I'll say "it's ok, just close them". Then, I'll hold her softly and put one hand on her cheek and say on her ear "open your eyes".. then I'll ask her if she thought I was going to kiss her if she says yes, I go for the kiss, if she says "dunno" I say I wanted her with eyes open in order to kiss her. If she says "no" I just say that I wanted to know if she trusted me.

What do you think? Is it good? Can it improove?

Thanks

Author:  Kaveriis "SITH" [ Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:42 am ]
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Easy there fella. It's great to have canned material and stacked routines, but remember, your not psychic. You don't know what she's gonna say or how she might react. Have your opener and follow up stories ready, but also be natural. If your afraid that you might fuck it up, wait awhile. Game other girls for a few weeks before you approach the one you really like. Liked the negs you used, but where were the FTC's? Don't do the gay disqualifier. She'll either believe you (in which case your fucked), or she won't (in which case it won't work). Maybe say: "Your way to shy for me", or "Your first impression sucked". Something along those lines. Liked the kiss test, but theres no need for the "beauty is common" part if you've built enough comfort. Remember, kissing is just kino. Unless your doing heavy making out, it's just a small part of comfort. You need to bounce in order to seduce. Your place, or hers.

Author:  96Firebird [ Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:48 am ]
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I thought I told you to talk to her before the party. Don't let me down.

Author:  santos_br [ Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:26 am ]
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Easy there fella. It's great to have canned material and stacked routines, but remember, your not psychic. You don't know what she's gonna say or how she might react. Have your opener and follow up stories ready, but also be natural. If your afraid that you might fuck it up, wait awhile. Game other girls for a few weeks before you approach the one you really like. Liked the negs you used, but where were the FTC's? Don't do the gay disqualifier. She'll either believe you (in which case your fucked), or she won't (in which case it won't work). Maybe say: "Your way to shy for me", or "Your first impression sucked". Something along those lines. Liked the kiss test, but theres no need for the "beauty is common" part if you've built enough comfort. Remember, kissing is just kino. Unless your doing heavy making out, it's just a small part of comfort. You need to bounce in order to seduce. Your place, or hers.
Ok.. no problem. I'll correct these points. I was already on my plans going out on saturday to game some chicks. And I'm doing that on school with other girls I know just to get practice.
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I thought I told you to talk to her before the party. Don't let me down.
I'm really trying but she is always with her friends (girls) and they never stop staring at me when I'm around.

Author:  Okiokdan [ Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:35 am ]
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I'm really trying but she is always with her friends (girls) and they never stop staring at me when I'm around.
Confront them on staring at you all the time is like an option you know ;) Neg the target and make friends with their group.
Do your really think they are watching you cause of your clothes or something? Its you! Approach them, which I think is an DHV in this case (they're in a group), and have a chat with them.

Author:  santos_br [ Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:44 pm ]
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Thank you guys for the help.. Really. You can't imagine how things are getting clearer =)

But you see, I'm afraid.. I've never dealt with rejection very well and I really want this girl so it means something to me. One-itis.. yes hahaha. I know this girl is very hard to get (people only know 2 boys she made out with) and it's clear that she want's to know if every boy is at her reach (which is good for me I guess.. I can work with it). Everyday I get more IOI's.. she walks by me and then just goes away. She stares at me with her friends. When I'm around she just doesn't fccking stops moving around and exagerating on body language.

What are your prospects?

Something I think it's very relevant. I'm very good at gaming girls I just don't care about. I almost never get rejected.. I'm good looking so it helps. But when I'm having an one-itis I just get mad. That's why I'm here.. Hope you can keep helping me =)

Author:  Revision [ Thu May 29, 2008 3:33 am ]
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lol, whenever you plan exactly how a routine goes. Chances are the set won't react with the way you planned. lol It's like playing chess you don't know the other person's move

Author:  SSniper [ Thu May 29, 2008 8:57 am ]
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hah
its not a commando operation man!!
shit will happen, there will be AMOGs, and most things don't go as planned... you just have to fly with it...

but two things that i disagree are :
1. i dont like the "i'm gay thing".. but if it works for you have fun...
2. one thing you don't show (and it's a fucking party) is preselection by women... you should..

have fun..

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