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Author:  draisig30 [ Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:55 am ]
Post subject:  Can't keep a girl overall
Hello,

i thought i just start a new topic to ask for advice.

I have a problem in general.
Im not the best PUA, but i can get a girl to go on a date with me.
Sometimes its cool, sometimes its not.

My problem is, whenever i think its cool. She stops liking me after 2 dates till 3 month maximum.

I know its hard to find the reason if u dont see me, but i dont know how to describe it.

Im an averange looking guy. I still study with 28 but it has its reasons and i will make a good job. Overall im funny and friendly. I tend to be beta, but im aware of it and try to block this behaviour. Works often, not always.

Is there a book or video or anything that can show me how to make a girl fall in love with me when shes allready attracted?
Also Shittests seem to be a problem for me. I need to train my awareness here.

Hope you pros can help me.
cheers
Author:  R.C [ Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't keep a girl overall
You're probably clingy/needy.
Author:  DJ_Z [ Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:29 pm ]
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You're probably clingy/needy.
I agree but I think I can expand on this.

So, OP, you say you can get dates. That's awesome. When do you try to fuck the girl? Like how much time do you think you need to spend with a woman before you can try to bang?

It also sounds like you are in a cycle where you meet a girl, go out, focus entirely on her, then she bails. Until you are in a monogamous relationship, you are single. THAT means don't stop meeting new women just because one agreed to go to a movie.
Author:  draisig30 [ Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't keep a girl overall
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You're probably clingy/needy.
I agree but I think I can expand on this.

So, OP, you say you can get dates. That's awesome. When do you try to fuck the girl? Like how much time do you think you need to spend with a woman before you can try to bang?

It also sounds like you are in a cycle where you meet a girl, go out, focus entirely on her, then she bails. Until you are in a monogamous relationship, you are single. THAT means don't stop meeting new women just because one agreed to go to a movie.
true that, i go absolutly monogamous when im into a girl, advice taken, thanks :D

when to fuck depends on the girl... i try to adjust, if shes shy and dont want to hurry, i wait - but at least on date 3 i want to kiss her, on the other hand, i also started dating after ONS or tried to kiss on the first date.
i got no concept here. is this a mistake?
Author:  R.C [ Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:46 pm ]
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but at least on date 3 i want to kiss her
There's your issue right there. You should aim to kiss her on the 1st date. You're moving too slow.

By the 3rd date she should be comfortable enough to come home with you.
Author:  draisig30 [ Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't keep a girl overall
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but at least on date 3 i want to kiss her
There's your issue right there. You should aim to kiss her on the 1st date. You're moving too slow.

By the 3rd date she should be comfortable enough to come home with you.
I did that, sometimes it worked, sometimes not.

I just wanted to say, on the 3rd date is the chance that i try to kiss her 100%. usually first or second date. :)

But still. i also managed to fuck girls over a month or two, maybe three. At least than they lose their interesst. Some of them also called me boyfriend to others. I used to meet their parents and stuff.
Than they dump me, the reason i hear is, it was "special" enough to be perfect. It has to switch a button inside them they say.

I guess a big part is my problems with shittests. But there gotta be another reason.
Author:  R.C [ Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't keep a girl overall
No such thing as shit tests.
Author:  Mr. Assertive [ Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:07 am ]
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You have to stop playing the boyfriend role. Everyone wants to be their boyfriends. You have to play the smooth lover who is hard to tie down. I always get the "talk" from every girl. Or at least they try to upgrade themselves and think I'm stupid and don't see what their ploy is.
Author:  Autoregressive [ Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't keep a girl overall
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Overall im funny and friendly.
Are you funny? Do the girls laugh at your jokes? Does anyone?
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I tend to be beta, but im aware of it and try to block this behaviour. Works often, not always.
I have no idea what that means. There’s no universal definition of alpha or beta in reality, especially the dating/pickup community. It’s just a negative/positive term that’s loosely used.

Overall, there’s nothing here that suggested you’re overly needy or whatever. As in, more invested in the girls than they are in you. . .

You said you’re able to go out on dates, have sex, but have an issue keeping these girls longer-term, right? You want to move to something committed?

I’d say you might just not be making much of a positive impression on them. You need to be able to make these girls feel special and doing things for them that other guys haven’t done. Take them somewhere nice (food, entertainment, beach getaway, etc.) or do something for them that shows you care (cook up something or make some quality cocktails for them at your place) as a few examples. Also, are you able to build a deep emotional connection with these women? Have intimate discussions, etc. After 3+ dates, all of this stuff should begin to materialize.
Author:  draisig30 [ Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't keep a girl overall
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Overall im funny and friendly.
Are you funny? Do the girls laugh at your jokes? Does anyone?

Yes, alot. Most of my humor is kinda strange but most people like it.
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I tend to be beta, but im aware of it and try to block this behaviour. Works often, not always.
I have no idea what that means. There’s no universal definition of alpha or beta in reality, especially the dating/pickup community. It’s just a negative/positive term that’s loosely used.

Overall, there’s nothing here that suggested you’re overly needy or whatever. As in, more invested in the girls than they are in you. . .

You said you’re able to go out on dates, have sex, but have an issue keeping these girls longer-term, right? You want to move to something committed?

I’d say you might just not be making much of a positive impression on them. You need to be able to make these girls feel special and doing things for them that other guys haven’t done. Take them somewhere nice (food, entertainment, beach getaway, etc.) or do something for them that shows you care (cook up something or make some quality cocktails for them at your place) as a few examples. Also, are you able to build a deep emotional connection with these women? Have intimate discussions, etc. After 3+ dates, all of this stuff should begin to materialize.
I make them feel special, im good at that and got told about that.

I often avoid discussions about being a couple now and stuff. but i can talk about intimate things.

Mostly i got emotionally damaged girls, this might be a problem. But i didnt find a normal one that interessted me.


to sum it up.
I get something going. From a ONS to a few month "relationship" which isnt called like that but it behaves like one.

Than i get "the talk" that im a really cool guy, we should stay friends. I dont love you. i got another man.

Just dont know what to do against that
it cant be the girls since its always the same story
Author:  Arch Stanton [ Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:01 pm ]
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Mostly i got emotionally damaged girls, this might be a problem. But i didnt find a normal one that interessted me.
The sexiest women are all emotionally damaged.

Top reasons a guy can get a girl interested initially, but not keep them:

1. Bad kisser.
2. Bad in bed (fails to dominate).
3. Needy (too much texting, doesn't give enough space, doesn't wait for woman to respond).
Author:  R.C [ Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:26 pm ]
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I never understood what a bad kisser is?
Author:  Mr. Assertive [ Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:54 pm ]
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I never understood what a bad kisser is?

Lol....bruh, there are some bad kissers...saliva, mouth is too open, eager...just bad.
Author:  Arch Stanton [ Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can't keep a girl overall
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I never understood what a bad kisser is?

Bad timing on lip contact, too much saliva, all tongue no mouth, all mouth no tongue, etc.

The #1 reason why women (whom I have talked to) don't go further with a guy is bad kissing. It's so important to them.

If you can match a woman's ideal kisser, she'll probably blow you on the first date.
Author:  DJ_Z [ Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:13 pm ]
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Don't try to eat her head? Lol I dunno man I am skeptical of any and all survey type research about what women like or dont. Women lie about it...a lot
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