PUA Forum :: what do I do in this situation?? she messaged me

Take her fuckin out.

Stop being like all the beta males out there who build comfort on chat and then see the women answering later and later till she stops texting.

Grow some balls, tell her "Hey, I'm going to X place Y day, come with me". Don't ask, tell her.

You already much overvalidated her with the first message.

Stop being a beta male. Show her (and yourself) that you're like that idiotic man from the Gilette commercial that never has to ask.

Build a little attraction and comfort and invite her to the party. This time do some more work in person and solidify some sort of connection.

Stop being like all the beta males out there who build comfort on chat and then see the women answering later and later till she stops texting.

Well I guess that if I use the direct way of ordering her to go out with me, she will desire to do that but at the same time she must feel afraid and with buyers remorse cause not comfort. Its also hard to build comfort with she, she must be 13 years older than me. and she is going back to her country in some weeks I guess. I think she likes me physically and she wants sex with me, but at same time, anti slut defense can emerge.

I guess she has a bf or something in his country, thats why she didnt kiss me but grided me. to dont feel guilty.

Hard to take a decission. I want to risk my reply but with some basis

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Build a little attraction and comfort and invite her to the party. This time do some more work in person and solidify some sort of connection.

Quote:

Stop being like all the beta males out there who build comfort on chat and then see the women answering later and later till she stops texting.

Shots fired!!! Shots fired!!!

I get the "tell her" to go out with you and do agree with it a lot of the time. The problem is that you have to be in the position to be able to tell a girl to meet up with you. A woman just doesn't follow because you tell them to. They follow because you have shown yourself to be the type of man that they want to follow. In this case, how you've described it, I'd say something like, "I'm going to x on x-day. I'd like it if you'd come too." I know that the hypertestosterone driven PUA would say that sounds beta...but the smarter person knows that you can't force anything and a little bit of charm is going to take you a lot farther rather than trying to force a situation.

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Build a little attraction and comfort and invite her to the party. This time do some more work in person and solidify some sort of connection.

Quote:

Stop being like all the beta males out there who build comfort on chat and then see the women answering later and later till she stops texting.

Shots fired!!! Shots fired!!!

Why would you need to overinvest in building comfort?

Invite her to something public, I always go to museums when some expo is out (I like expos, so even if I don't like her I still enjoy the expo) or just a walk or something to a place with people(I don't like sitting at a table since the very beginning). She sees that:

a) You're not tryharding, which is often an insta killer

b) you're not somebody who wants to kill her and hide her in the basement by going to a public place with lots of people around. You have the occasion to talk to other people, waitress, ice candy sellers, whatever

c) doing stuff together creates a sense of "togetherness" that chitchatting behind a table does not (plus you have the occasion to lean back, you don't have to talk all the time nor force yourself to think about stuff or go for storytelling, the expo, the walk, whatever is already giving you plenty of stuff to think about and share ideas)

d) you're not a pussy but a man that knows what he wants, when he wants it, but you're still chilled and relaxed and not tryharding.

e) she's giving you company in something YOU want to do (the walk, the expo, buying clothes, whatever the fuck YOU want to do), you're taking her off the fuckin pedestal

Comfort is fuckin core, mr. assertive is right in this, but I can totally tell you that you create much more comfort (in my opinion) by not needing to validate yourself through chat, qualify yourself through chat, you do not appear needy nor insecure.

"Hey, that's the guy I met, he asked me to go out, but he's not texting me like some virgin that doesn't know what to do in front of a woman, he's doing his job/hobbies/social circle/ecc, he's not overinvesting in a person he DOES NOT know".

What I do to keep a little bit of communication? Send some funny images (like once or twice top about something that reminds me of her), send her some voice message over SPAM like "hey, what's up? you can't believe what happened to me today, a woman was cutting the line in the shop so she could finally drink her wisky, whatever".

Just chill the fuck up, and show her you're a normal dude, not some needy insecure creep.

What you want afterall by asking our opinion here? Talk to her on SPAM or meet the woman again?

The second right? then do it.

You want to exchange some lines from time to time? then do it.

Go with the flow and focus on what YOU want and take it fuckin easy and simple.

Quote:

Build a little attraction and comfort and invite her to the party. This time do some more work in person and solidify some sort of connection.

Quote:

Stop being like all the beta males out there who build comfort on chat and then see the women answering later and later till she stops texting.

Shots fired!!! Shots fired!!!

Why would you need to overinvest in building comfort with somebody who already made out with you, gave you her number, and is answering directly?

She's in, take her out, don't be tinder generation.

Generally speaking...when you meet a drunk girl at a party/club/bar and you walk away with her number and don't have sex, that will likely be the last time you see her. Making out on the same day doesn't mean shit after she sobers up. Usually, that's just raw attraction and mixed in with a girl that would have fucked just about anyone as long as the initial attraction was there and he didn't screw things up between the party and the place that she was willing to have sex.

I'm not sure what you mean by the tinder generation because this shit is basic.

Author:	Zacktheplayer [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:	what do I do in this situation?? she messaged me
As I commented in my presentation. I am a new in PUA worlds, and still reading mystery's method. I have this situation: I went partying last fridays night alone, I approached 12 girls in a very direct style (never have done before) like: "hey u hot, lets kiss". This style only works on desperate women or drunkards, and only worked for me with 1 out of 40, in macro festivals. Normal girls refused, and I only could dance at the end with a drunk girl, who was griding me widely (sticking her body to mine, even her pussy with my thing, and letting me touch her ass without control) , doing everything , but she didnt kissed me directly. Ofc she liked me in a physical way. I didnt expect this, but she wanted me to message her. I did next day, without expecting that she reply back, cause she was drunk, perhaps didnt recognize me by face on SPAM, and cause of buyer's remorse described in Mystery's method. But surprisingly she replied me today almost 4 days after I messaged her. What can I do in order to flirt her? I know looks its not the only reason, but by my experience I would tell that she thinks I am hot, I assume this, and that she liked the pic I used. Girls of britain usually likes my looks. I did a poll using a girl fake account, with many pics, and I got very good marks most of the time. In other countries I got less. So let's assume she likes me phyisically. What do you recommend me to do next? I didnt reply her yet. I am thinking in going to party this friday or thursday.

Author:	Aqualol [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:24 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: what do I do in this situation?? she messaged me
Invite her to join you for something cool. Don't waste time on flirting on text, women are full of man that flirt with them on chat. Avoid drinking, take her to something active like a museum or something.

Author:	Mr. Assertive [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:32 pm ]
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Build a little attraction and comfort and invite her to the party. This time do some more work in person and solidify some sort of connection.

Author:	Zacktheplayer [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:57 pm ]
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Im going to write u ore info, im about 25, she must be at least 35, perhaps 38 imo I sent kinda a creeper message the first time: hey how are u! we were at "name of bar" dancing so nice last night. U told me to message u, I enjoyed it a lot, u are such a beatiful girl she reply today saying: thank u for the nice message. great to meet you (ok emoticon) (disco emoticon) Btw she is foreigner living here, I think she must get back to her country in some months or smth Yes I guess its important to build some confort by SPAM? what should I ask. After that if it works, perhaps i can invite her to take somethign alone with me, before the party

Author:	Aqualol [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:08 pm ]
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Take her fuckin out. Stop being like all the beta males out there who build comfort on chat and then see the women answering later and later till she stops texting. Grow some balls, tell her "Hey, I'm going to X place Y day, come with me". Don't ask, tell her. You already much overvalidated her with the first message. Stop being a beta male. Show her (and yourself) that you're like that idiotic man from the Gilette commercial that never has to ask.

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Author:	Zacktheplayer [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:34 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: what do I do in this situation?? she messaged me
Quote: Take her fuckin out. Stop being like all the beta males out there who build comfort on chat and then see the women answering later and later till she stops texting. Grow some balls, tell her "Hey, I'm going to X place Y day, come with me". Don't ask, tell her. You already much overvalidated her with the first message. Stop being a beta male. Show her (and yourself) that you're like that idiotic man from the Gilette commercial that never has to ask. yes i was thinking in a direct way: but wouldnt she feel scared, I mean she might think: "well I like this guy, but I dont feel safe, i dont know nothing about him, except that he looks ok for me" Thats why mystery talks about building comfort, and also to avoid buyers remorse

Author:	JackZero [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:51 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: what do I do in this situation?? she messaged me
Quote: Build a little attraction and comfort and invite her to the party. This time do some more work in person and solidify some sort of connection. Quote: Stop being like all the beta males out there who build comfort on chat and then see the women answering later and later till she stops texting. Shots fired!!! Shots fired!!!

Author:	Zacktheplayer [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: what do I do in this situation?? she messaged me
Well I guess that if I use the direct way of ordering her to go out with me, she will desire to do that but at the same time she must feel afraid and with buyers remorse cause not comfort. Its also hard to build comfort with she, she must be 13 years older than me. and she is going back to her country in some weeks I guess. I think she likes me physically and she wants sex with me, but at same time, anti slut defense can emerge. I guess she has a bf or something in his country, thats why she didnt kiss me but grided me. to dont feel guilty. Hard to take a decission. I want to risk my reply but with some basis

Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:26 pm ]
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Send a dick pic. This thread is already in the shitter anyway.

Author:	Arch Stanton [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:31 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: what do I do in this situation?? she messaged me
Quote: Take her fuckin out. Stop being like all the beta males out there who build comfort on chat and then see the women answering later and later till she stops texting. Grow some balls, tell her "Hey, I'm going to X place Y day, come with me". Don't ask, tell her. Yep!

Author:	JackZero [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:32 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: what do I do in this situation?? she messaged me
Quote: Well I guess that if I use the direct way of ordering her to go out with me, she will desire to do that but at the same time she must feel afraid and with buyers remorse cause not comfort. Its also hard to build comfort with she, she must be 13 years older than me. and she is going back to her country in some weeks I guess. I think she likes me physically and she wants sex with me, but at same time, anti slut defense can emerge. I guess she has a bf or something in his country, thats why she didnt kiss me but grided me. to dont feel guilty. Hard to take a decission. I want to risk my reply but with some basis I get the "tell her" to go out with you and do agree with it a lot of the time. The problem is that you have to be in the position to be able to tell a girl to meet up with you. A woman just doesn't follow because you tell them to. They follow because you have shown yourself to be the type of man that they want to follow. In this case, how you've described it, I'd say something like, "I'm going to x on x-day. I'd like it if you'd come too." I know that the hypertestosterone driven PUA would say that sounds beta...but the smarter person knows that you can't force anything and a little bit of charm is going to take you a lot farther rather than trying to force a situation.

Author:	Aqualol [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: what do I do in this situation?? she messaged me
Quote: Quote: Build a little attraction and comfort and invite her to the party. This time do some more work in person and solidify some sort of connection. Quote: Stop being like all the beta males out there who build comfort on chat and then see the women answering later and later till she stops texting. Shots fired!!! Shots fired!!! Why would you need to overinvest in building comfort? Invite her to something public, I always go to museums when some expo is out (I like expos, so even if I don't like her I still enjoy the expo) or just a walk or something to a place with people(I don't like sitting at a table since the very beginning). She sees that: a) You're not tryharding, which is often an insta killer b) you're not somebody who wants to kill her and hide her in the basement by going to a public place with lots of people around. You have the occasion to talk to other people, waitress, ice candy sellers, whatever c) doing stuff together creates a sense of "togetherness" that chitchatting behind a table does not (plus you have the occasion to lean back, you don't have to talk all the time nor force yourself to think about stuff or go for storytelling, the expo, the walk, whatever is already giving you plenty of stuff to think about and share ideas) d) you're not a pussy but a man that knows what he wants, when he wants it, but you're still chilled and relaxed and not tryharding. e) she's giving you company in something YOU want to do (the walk, the expo, buying clothes, whatever the fuck YOU want to do), you're taking her off the fuckin pedestal Comfort is fuckin core, mr. assertive is right in this, but I can totally tell you that you create much more comfort (in my opinion) by not needing to validate yourself through chat, qualify yourself through chat, you do not appear needy nor insecure. "Hey, that's the guy I met, he asked me to go out, but he's not texting me like some virgin that doesn't know what to do in front of a woman, he's doing his job/hobbies/social circle/ecc, he's not overinvesting in a person he DOES NOT know". What I do to keep a little bit of communication? Send some funny images (like once or twice top about something that reminds me of her), send her some voice message over SPAM like "hey, what's up? you can't believe what happened to me today, a woman was cutting the line in the shop so she could finally drink her wisky, whatever". Just chill the fuck up, and show her you're a normal dude, not some needy insecure creep. What you want afterall by asking our opinion here? Talk to her on SPAM or meet the woman again? The second right? then do it. You want to exchange some lines from time to time? then do it. Go with the flow and focus on what YOU want and take it fuckin easy and simple. Quote: I get the "tell her" to go out with you and do agree with it a lot of the time. The problem is that you have to be in the position to be able to tell a girl to meet up with you. A woman just doesn't follow because you tell them to. They follow because you have shown yourself to be the type of man that they want to follow. In this case, how you've described it, I'd say something like, "I'm going to x on x-day. I'd like it if you'd come too." I know that the hypertestosterone driven PUA would say that sounds beta...but the smarter person knows that you can't force anything and a little bit of charm is going to take you a lot farther rather than trying to force a situation. True, I must say tho that I've never been refused once since I started to tell them what I want (rather than ordering). "Hey, I like this new expo, I'm going there sunday and I want you to come with me". You're not asking nor begging for permission, you're doing that shit regardless of her, she's a bonus not a necessity. I like my own style and it works for me, everybody should follow his own.

Author:	Zacktheplayer [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: what do I do in this situation?? she messaged me
Quote: Quote: Quote: Build a little attraction and comfort and invite her to the party. This time do some more work in person and solidify some sort of connection. Quote: Stop being like all the beta males out there who build comfort on chat and then see the women answering later and later till she stops texting. Shots fired!!! Shots fired!!! Why would you need to overinvest in building comfort? Invite her to something public, I always go to museums when some expo is out (I like expos, so even if I don't like her I still enjoy the expo) or just a walk or something to a place with people(I don't like sitting at a table since the very beginning). She sees that: a) You're not tryharding, which is often an insta killer b) you're not somebody who wants to kill her and hide her in the basement by going to a public place with lots of people around. You have the occasion to talk to other people, waitress, ice candy sellers, whatever c) doing stuff together creates a sense of "togetherness" that chitchatting behind a table does not (plus you have the occasion to lean back, you don't have to talk all the time nor force yourself to think about stuff or go for storytelling, the expo, the walk, whatever is already giving you plenty of stuff to think about and share ideas) d) you're not a pussy but a man that knows what he wants, when he wants it, but you're still chilled and relaxed and not tryharding. e) she's giving you company in something YOU want to do (the walk, the expo, buying clothes, whatever the fuck YOU want to do), you're taking her off the fuckin pedestal Comfort is fuckin core, mr. assertive is right in this, but I can totally tell you that you create much more comfort (in my opinion) by not needing to validate yourself through chat, qualify yourself through chat, you do not appear needy nor insecure. "Hey, that's the guy I met, he asked me to go out, but he's not texting me like some virgin that doesn't know what to do in front of a woman, he's doing his job/hobbies/social circle/ecc, he's not overinvesting in a person he DOES NOT know". What I do to keep a little bit of communication? Send some funny images (like once or twice top about something that reminds me of her), send her some voice message over SPAM like "hey, what's up? you can't believe what happened to me today, a woman was cutting the line in the shop so she could finally drink her wisky, whatever". Just chill the fuck up, and show her you're a normal dude, not some needy insecure creep. What you want afterall by asking our opinion here? Talk to her on SPAM or meet the woman again? The second right? then do it. You want to exchange some lines from time to time? then do it. Go with the flow and focus on what YOU want and take it fuckin easy and simple. ok u convinced me. Im going to tell her (not order) to go with me to take a drink in a public place, before party. but i will message her in 2 days, else i will lose value to her.

Author:	JackZero [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:10 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: what do I do in this situation?? she messaged me
Quote: Quote: Quote: Build a little attraction and comfort and invite her to the party. This time do some more work in person and solidify some sort of connection. Quote: Stop being like all the beta males out there who build comfort on chat and then see the women answering later and later till she stops texting. Shots fired!!! Shots fired!!! Why would you need to overinvest in building comfort with somebody who already made out with you, gave you her number, and is answering directly? She's in, take her out, don't be tinder generation. Generally speaking...when you meet a drunk girl at a party/club/bar and you walk away with her number and don't have sex, that will likely be the last time you see her. Making out on the same day doesn't mean shit after she sobers up. Usually, that's just raw attraction and mixed in with a girl that would have fucked just about anyone as long as the initial attraction was there and he didn't screw things up between the party and the place that she was willing to have sex. I'm not sure what you mean by the tinder generation because this shit is basic.

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Author:	Aqualol [ Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:12 pm ]
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Quote: Generally speaking...when you meet a drunk girl at a party/club/bar and you walk away with her number and don't have sex, that will likely be the last time you see her. Making out on the same day doesn't mean shit after she sobers up. Usually, that's just raw attraction and mixed in with a girl that would have fucked just about anyone as long as the initial attraction was there and he didn't screw things up between the party and the place that she was willing to have sex. I'm not sure what you mean by the tinder generation because this shit is basic. I edited my post. I agree with you, tho she answers him quite rapidly and she seems interested so just asking her out is what I would've done.