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| Author: | Fritz2 [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Day game success rates? |
To get a sense of what's normal and what's to be expected, I'm curious about what kind of success rates the more experienced guys here get with day game? And by success I mean getting a date without the girl flaking. How often out of X approaches does that happen? And could you say which country you are from, as I think national cultures differ in how open girls are to approaches during the day. Also, in what kind of places do you approach? |
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| Author: | R.C [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day game success rates? |
Your question is somewhat flawed. You're talking about cold approach, and cold approach is random in the sense that you can be meeting an amazing girl or an utter idiot just the same. The point is that if you meet someone that fits your blueprint, then yes, the quality of your interaction will significantly increase likelyhood of your future relationship, whichever it may be, and that's the only thing you can control. You can't however control external factors like her cat dying or her roommate staining her favorite dress. So your question is flawed because it assumes that your goal is to mold your personality around the women you meet as if they ALL fit your standards. If that were the case maybe you could form a statistic. But in truth, you can't. As far as where to approach goes, the answer is simple. Where ever you see an attractive girl. |
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| Author: | Fritz2 [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day game success rates? |
Quote: Your question is somewhat flawed.
I understand that and I want the statistics nevertheless.You're talking about cold approach, and cold approach is random in the sense that you can be meeting an amazing girl or an utter idiot just the same. The point is that if you meet someone that fits your blueprint, then yes, the quality of your interaction will significantly increase likelyhood of your future relationship, whichever it may be, and that's the only thing you can control. You can't however control external factors like her cat dying or her roommate staining her favorite dress. So your question is flawed because it assumes that your goal is to mold your personality around the women you meet as if they ALL fit your standards. If that were the case maybe you could form a statistic. But in truth, you can't. As far as where to approach goes, the answer is simple. Where ever you see an attractive girl. I've no intention of molding my personality around any girl, I'll be what I am (doing the best to be confident and all that) and let the results be what they will be. Of course, the biggest factor here (quality of the approach aside) is the matter of whether you're her type or not, and I understand that there are factors like that that will influence the statistics. Also some girls are more open to this sort of thing than others. That's all fine. I still would like to hear what the success rate is for a good experienced PUA (yes, I know a lot of other factors influence, still, just give me the stats). |
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| Author: | R.C [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day game success rates? |
Out of 10 new girls I will end up on a first date with around 6-7 of them assuming that's what you mean by "success" and assuming they've also handed their number. But again, that doesn't mean anything. |
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| Author: | Fritz2 [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day game success rates? |
Quote: Out of 10 new girls I will end up on a first date with around 6-7 of them assuming that's what you mean by "success" and assuming they've also handed their number.
Wow, that's impressive.But again, that doesn't mean anything. So these are complete strangers you run into on the street, mall, store, those kind of locations? |
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| Author: | JackZero [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day game success rates? |
Truthfully, this is not something that you want to know. You are already shocked to hear the success of one poster and now you may try to live up to his success to gauge if you are getting acceptable results. Once you get a few number of what you call successes under your belt, the failures will be blurs in your past. |
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| Author: | Fritz2 [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day game success rates? |
Quote: Truthfully, this is not something that you want to know. You are already shocked to hear the success of one poster and now you may try to live up to his success to gauge if you are getting acceptable results. Once you get a few number of what you call successes under your belt, the failures will be blurs in your past.
Don't worry about my ego, just give me the numbers.
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| Author: | Dragula [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day game success rates? |
for day time Probably about 20 numbers for one date. In daytime though, I only go for the super hotties |
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| Author: | JackZero [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day game success rates? |
Quote: Quote: Truthfully, this is not something that you want to know. You are already shocked to hear the success of one poster and now you may try to live up to his success to gauge if you are getting acceptable results. Once you get a few number of what you call successes under your belt, the failures will be blurs in your past.
Don't worry about my ego, just give me the numbers. |
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| Author: | R.C [ Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day game success rates? |
Quote: Quote: Out of 10 new girls I will end up on a first date with around 6-7 of them assuming that's what you mean by "success" and assuming they've also handed their number.
Wow, that's impressive.But again, that doesn't mean anything. So these are complete strangers you run into on the street, mall, store, those kind of locations? I will meet 10 girls out of which 6-7 will hand a number. Out of 10 numbers 6-7 will reply to an initial text. Out of 10 that reply I'll be curious about 3-4. And out of 10 (new girls) that I would date at this point, about 7 will not flake. You do the math. I like cold approach during the day, specially during summer, but given it's random nature to me it's just a "might as well". As in, I might as well stop and flirt with a few cute girls on my way to the grocery store, but I don't leave the house with that purpose in mind. If I did that would imply that I'm looking for something which is either a relationship or a fuckbuddy. And in my opinion networking and social circle are by far more effective at that simply because it eliminates most of the random factor since you're obviously more likely to meet people that are, more or less, on the same wavelength as you. That being said you shouldn't be discouraged from cold approach because, ironically enough, the most critically important thing you gain from it will not be women, but the social skills to hold a pleasant conversation with a complete stranger in almost any given situation. That confidence alone will resonate throughout all aspects of your life. And yes, you can and will meet some great girls along the way, but becoming comfortable with stepping out of your comfort zone is infinitely more valuable. |
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| Author: | Fritz2 [ Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day game success rates? |
Quote: for day time
You mean you will get 20 numbers but only 1 of those will actually lead to a date?Probably about 20 numbers for one date. In daytime though, I only go for the super hotties Boy, that's rough. And how often out of 10-20 approaches do you get the number? Quote: I think you miss-understand. It's not impressive it's simply highly selective. The weedout process is still there.
You mean selective in the sense that you are selective about which girls you will or won't approach on the street?Quote: I like cold approach during the day, specially during summer, but given it's random nature to me it's just a "might as well". As in, I might as well stop and flirt with a few cute girls on my way to the grocery store, but I don't leave the house with that purpose in mind.
Sure, that's how I look at it, too.If I did that would imply that I'm looking for something which is either a relationship or a fuckbuddy. And in my opinion networking and social circle are by far more effective at that simply because it eliminates most of the random factor since you're obviously more likely to meet people that are, more or less, on the same wavelength as you. I would assume that 90% of relationships happen through just people meeting through friends or work or something like that. My goal with PUing is simply to be able to approach fairly competently the occasional very interesting girl I see in a setting which is not typical and completely socially acceptable for approaching girls, so the street, a store or something like that. Far too often I see girls at random places who are very interesting or beautiful and I just want to be able to give a decent attempt. The idea of having to simply let her go without even trying because "you just don't approach girls you don't know on the street" is hard for me to accept. |
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| Author: | Dragula [ Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day game success rates? |
Quote: Boy, that's rough.
Probably the reason why I don't do it often. But that's my magic number. And how often out of 10-20 approaches do you get the number? I like having the ability to physically escalate and I feel daytime prevents a lot of that so you have to focus on verbal stuff which I feel is a small part of seduction. Take me to a night a club and I will take home a girl 8 times out of 10. Some are more attractive than others. But the fact that I can physically escalate as an opener and get in her face is a big reason why I like the night time. But I have hooked up with some gorgeous girls in the daytime whereas if i was to approach the same girl in the night club, i'd have to build some value to be on her level. Like having a stupid table or something |
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| Author: | R.C [ Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day game success rates? |
Quote:
I think you miss-understand. It's not impressive it's simply highly selective. The weedout process is still there.
No, I approach if I like the way she looks, that's pretty evident. Not much selecting can be done there. It's highly selective because I don't bother texting (and hence reaching the point of asking out) girls that aren't receptive/showing signs of investment. |
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| Author: | NorthernMan [ Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day game success rates? |
Quote: Quote: Quote: That being said you shouldn't be discouraged from cold approach because, ironically enough, the most critically important thing you gain from it will not be women, but the social skills to hold a pleasant conversation with a complete stranger in almost any given situation. That confidence alone will resonate throughout all aspects of your life. I've started forcing myself to talk to one random female each day, about anything, anywhere: not as a pickup, but to desensitise myself to it, so that when it matters, I will hopefully be able to chat naturally and appear not to be pursuing anything. |
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| Author: | Kss ing [ Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Day game success rates? |
Alright brother check it out... I can dig u wanting to know the whole success rate how many blah blah blah. But I think u need to ask yourself what you're really in this for.... hopefully its to become the best man u can be. U can quote me on this... "If pickup ain't fun... you aint doing it right!" You want to be the type of guy who can just approach any girl you want whenever you want? Bottom line u jus need to put in the work everyday. Whenever u get a chance. See a girl u think is cute approach! Approach approach approach!!! Look at it this way... There is nothing in the universe more complex and interesting than the human brain. You have the opportunity to take an adventure every time you approach someone. And you give them the opportunity to take the adventure of getting to know you! AND ITS FREE!!! You want to be the type of guy that can just approach that girl when you see her that really catches your eye? Then you have to BE THE GUY that approaches cute girls whenever you see them! The bottom line is the more you do it the more comfortable you become. The more comfortable you become the more naturally comfortable you make every interaction. That in and of itself is an attractive quality. Pickup should never feel like work... It should be fun... It should be exciting!!! Always "Game" yourself inwardly. Tell yourself little jokes and keep yourself in a good headspace... Make it a point to enjoy yourself doing it! MAKE IT FUN!!! In daygame especially there is no need to be crazy! Just bring value... My approaches are very relaxed... smooth... friendly and easy going. I have about a 99.9% rate of making girls smile and say "thank you... you made my day" or some version of a positive response. It really is the most natural and should be excepted way to meet someone. Who ever said we have to go to a certain place called a "club" and get drunk to meet eack other. The most natural thing in the world is to see a beautiful girl in your day to day and want to go up and say hi !!! Craziest thing is... not a lot of people do it... GOOD more for us:) |
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