The Coach - thanks - will take a look.

King Among Moron's -
It's good that you can speak so lavishly from personal experience.

However you are a complete retard.
You've basically just called someone out on something they already freely admitted themselves.
And for what gain? To make yourself look better?

I won't be reading through your 4000 posts.

Out sarging? I highly doubt it.

The Coach - thanks - will take a look.

King Among Moron's -
It's good that you can speak so lavishly from personal experience.

However you are a complete retard.
You've basically just called someone out on something they already freely admitted themselves.
And for what gain? To make yourself look better?

I won't be reading through your 4000 posts.

Out sarging? I highly doubt it.

Some of you guys need to work on your common sense / ability to distinguish humor from insult.

Regardless, OP, your problem is that you've molded yourself into a poser. You need to run tactics in order to attract women, but these tactics don't "define" who you are. And who you are is someone else, which inevitably shines through the more she gets to know you. You can't keep up the act forever.
If you have to, quote on quote, "demonstrate higher value", simply the implication of having to pro-actively demonstrate it means you do not actually have it.

A true high value male doesn't have to demonstrate. Just like a true king doesn't have to yell "I AM KING" in order to be taken seriously. Being high value roots from your accumulated efforts, successes and achievements across all the major areas of your life. Confidence is something you take from within yourself.

My point being, if you truly want to be successful you need to invest in yourself to the point you become attractive, instead of investing in ways of appearing attractive.

It really could all be summed-up with this one statement.

And I gather this isn't something most of the guys on this board are wiling to give much credence to. Why? Because it takes work, and it can be challenging to even know where to begin especially if you've spent your entire life looking outside yourself for answers.

PUA sews a lot of discontent because it's ego based. I've talked about this before in previous threads, nothing new here. Being ego-based it provides guys the solution to attracting women by applying a bandaid over some maladaptive belief, self-limiting belief systems. The bandaid is to act like someone you're not in hopes to seek the adulation and love of women. It's an extremely exhausting charade to keep up, in fact its impossible.

The solution is to work on yourself FOR yourself, and as a byproduct u'll attract others. If you're doing what makes you joyful, that energy will vibrate from your very essence. There won't be any need to sell yourself (or sell yourself short) and opportunities would almost seemingly come your way with little to no effort. That is what I call abundance.

This is just mental masturbation.

The mere fact that the OP has invested his time in this forum to get good at something (attracting women for relationships) is a blatantly obvious testament that he's working for himself and his own happiness. These vague advices are nothing but put downs so you can look good while the OP would look bad.

People who want to be psychologists go to the university to learn how to become psychologists. People who want to have a great body eat right and workout in the gym to have a great body. People like the OP signed up in this forum to get good at attracting women for relationships and all you can say, in essence, is "Be yourself" without providing details on how?

@OP

The strategy for attracting women for long term relationships is different. You'll have to sarge a different age range; the age range where women want to settle down. Moreover, if you're too masculine, women are likely to perceive you as a cheater and thus, good only for short term flings.

You'll have to highlight some reliability and stability. How? Propinquity. Learn it.

The only masturbation going on here is by the guys relying upon tactics, techniques, and strategies instead of doing any meaningful work on themselves.

In any professional undertaking or career, people learn tactics, techniques and strategies. You want to learn medicine? You'll learn techniques and strategies. You want to learn engineering? You'll learn techniques and strategies. You want to workout in the gym? You'll learn tactics, techniques and strategies. It's just a matter of knowing which tactics, techniques or strategies work best under certain conditions or which ones do NOT work.

Civilizations are built on tactics, techniques and strategies from farming to engineering, and from peace to war.

Enough of the bullshit and mental masturbation already. Putting newbies down so you can look good and giving vague advices are NOT productive at all.

This isn't accurate. Many of the tactics, strategies, and techniques fall by the wayside in the real world if they're not put to use. What changes, provided the program has done its job, is the underlying shift in paradigm of thought. Anyone can apply strategies and techniques, even primates have demonstrated this repeatedly. The fundamental difference is the shift in underlying consciousness that sets a true 'professional' apart from somebody who perform as you've stated.

I haven't put down anyone, but I can sense you're angry. Perhaps you feel that I somehow think i am superior to the rest of you, I don't know, merely speculation.