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Author:  Arch Stanton [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:56 am ]
Post subject:  "As long as I'm calling the shots, I'm okay with it"

This is a text I saw from my current fuck buddy, whom I now have feelings for (argh). Her friend showed it to me, and it was right when we first started hooking up about a month ago. She also said "He's no good for me, but I'm loving it".

This girl is extremely cool, but I've kept the frame to where she does 90% of the texting and contacting. She has taken this to mean that she's calling the shots. The reality is she's chasing me.

How long can I let her keep that illusion, and do you think it will effect my frame down the road via slow erosion?

Author:  JackZero [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "As long as I'm calling the shots, I'm okay with it"

I don't take that as the meaning that you're giving it. I look at it as a defensive statement so when something negative happens she can say she saw it coming.

Author:  n2thevoid [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "As long as I'm calling the shots, I'm okay with it"

Why are some dudes so caught up in who's being chased by whom?!

To even ask that question shows scarcity, so even if she was chasing you, the fact remains that if she pulled away even a bit you'd freak out. Chasing is just an illusion.

Author:  oceanx [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:42 pm ]
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"He's no good for me, but I'm loving it".
I like it. Mean while she may have 15 orbiters hoping to get a taste.

Author:  Arch Stanton [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "As long as I'm calling the shots, I'm okay with it"

She does, because she's 20 and gorgeous, and a freaking porn star in bed.

The other night she left her phone at my place. I noticed in the texts over the last month, as I do more and more things right, the orbiters get bounced. She shuts down the texts with "have a good night" quickly.

I could write a novel about the valuable lesson I received from that phone:


1. Sappy texts, even if you're fucking a girl will turn her off eventually. There was an ex-boyfriend, who, at the tail end of the relationship would text things like "hey, I'd really like to see you this week , we haven't made out in a few days".

he was quickly friend-zoned.

Another guy she was fucking said (back in October before I knew her): "I really wish you'd stay over at my place more and cuddle". He was immediately friend-zoned. The next text was "thanks for setting me free, I was blindly addicted to you".

The more these guys texted (and the longer the texts..especially texts that "explained" situations or feelings) the more she started losing interest.

It was fucking priceless to see how this all played out. Guys who would start barfing up their feelings, or text useless things like "drive safe" or" that hug was really awesome!" would be faded out.

There is a guy who drives her crazy. He blows her off, and makes it seem impossible to meet up. He's deliberately obtuse and playing with her head. He texts every couple of weeks to meet up, then bails (they fucked early on when they met).

This even made her chase him at his work three weeks ago, where she invited him to her place. She even sent her address at 2 am, and he never showed.

This guy is my competition. He is laying the psychological foundation so he can have her anytime he wants for the foreseeable future. Just a simple text and bam. His scarcity is a huge turn on for her.

She has a fuck ton of options.

She texted me last night at 3:30 am all pissed off because she lost a wet t-shirt contest and wanted me to feed her wounded ego. I sent her a text back, then she told me she took too much adderall. I replied" nice" at 3:45 and didn't hear from her again until 5:40 am (the curt text said: Yes, took the 20mg addy), but I ignored. She sent another text today with a photo, asking me how my day was and that she's "recovering from not sleeping and tending to her plants". Ignoring that as well. I don't think a girl is going to text me throughout the night if she's banging another dude, and then send a relationship-y text, but it's still annoying, immature behavior.

I don't tolerate white trash behavior from the women in my life (participating in a wet t-shirt contest qualifies). I'm focused on my career and don't need helter-skelter texts with large holes between texts in the witching hours or to worry about this shit.

Author:  n2thevoid [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "As long as I'm calling the shots, I'm okay with it"

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She does, because she's 20 and gorgeous, and a freaking porn star in bed.

The other night she left her phone at my place. I noticed in the texts over the last month, as I do more and more things right, the orbiters get bounced. She shuts down the texts with "have a good night" quickly.

I could write a novel about the valuable lesson I received from that phone:


1. Sappy texts, even if you're fucking a girl will turn her off eventually. There was an ex-boyfriend, who, at the tail end of the relationship would text things like "hey, I'd really like to see you this week , we haven't made out in a few days".

Scarcity
he was quickly friend-zoned.

Another guy she was fucking said (back in October before I knew her): "I really wish you'd stay over at my place more and cuddle". He was immediately friend-zoned. The next text was "thanks for setting me free, I was blindly addicted to you".
Scarcity
The more these guys texted (and the longer the texts..especially texts that "explained" situations or feelings) the more she started losing interest.
Scarcity
It was fucking priceless to see how this all played out. Guys who would start barfing up their feelings, or text useless things like "drive safe" or" that hug was really awesome!" would be faded out.

There is a guy who drives her crazy. He blows her off, and makes it seem impossible to meet up. He's deliberately obtuse and playing with her head. He texts every couple of weeks to meet up, then bails (they fucked early on when they met).
Not scarcity, and/or abundance mentality
This even made her chase him at his work three weeks ago, where she invited him to her place. She even sent her address at 2 am, and he never showed.

This guy is my competition. He is laying the psychological foundation so he can have her anytime he wants for the foreseeable future. Just a simple text and bam. His scarcity is a huge turn on for her.

She has a fuck ton of options.

She texted me last night at 3:30 am all pissed off because she lost a wet t-shirt contest and wanted me to feed her wounded ego. I sent her a text back, then she told me she took too much adderall. I replied" nice" at 3:45 and didn't hear from her again until 5:40 am (the curt text said: Yes, took the 20mg addy), but I ignored. She sent another text today with a photo, asking me how my day was and that she's "recovering from not sleeping and tending to her plants". Ignoring that as well. I don't think a girl is going to text me throughout the night if she's banging another dude, and then send a relationship-y text, but it's still annoying, immature behavior.

I don't tolerate white trash behavior from the women in my life (participating in a wet t-shirt contest qualifies). I'm focused on my career and don't need helter-skelter texts with large holes between texts in the witching hours or to worry about this shit.
As many options as women have, most are not options at all because most of those guys are chodes and she knows it or expects and event anticipates it, often hoping to the guys she's initially attracted to "Please oh please be needy."

The typical guy may not have nearly as many options - for most guys its about creating opportunities whereas to women its quantity - they have to sift out the good from the trash and let me tell you most of it is trash. They actually have it far worse in that regard. We find a girl we're attracted to we pursue her, but with girls they're getting bombarded with ugly guys, or guys they simply have 0 interest in and have to figure out all sorts of ways to smoke screen/get him off her trail - and then there are some guys who don't get it and pursue, creepily enough.

Author:  neo87 [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "As long as I'm calling the shots, I'm okay with it"

If this girl is trash as you say, why are you taking lessons from her dating life? I mean, wouldn't learning how to play all these games just teach you how to get trashy girls? That's fine if you like trashy, just saying when you learn to game trash, you'll just find you get trash.

Author:  Arch Stanton [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "As long as I'm calling the shots, I'm okay with it"

I don't think she's trash. I adore her.

If I didn't care, I wouldn't post this. I just don't care for this type of behavior. It happens rarely with her.

She's extremely attractive and would blow your mind in bed...enthusiastic beyond belief. Therefore, she's someone you have to play your cards right with until she's hooked.

Young women at this level can have who they want, when they want, and they cut guys loose without a hint of remorse.

Play the game or date ugly girls.

Author:  JackZero [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "As long as I'm calling the shots, I'm okay with it"

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I don't think she's trash. I adore her.
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I don't tolerate white trash behavior from the women in my life (participating in a wet t-shirt contest qualifies).
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She texted me last night at 3:30 am all pissed off because she lost a wet t-shirt contest and wanted me to feed her wounded ego. I sent her a text back, then she told me she took too much adderall. I replied" nice" at 3:45 and didn't hear from her again until 5:40 am (the curt text said: Yes, took the 20mg addy), but I ignored.
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I'm focused on my career and don't need helter-skelter texts with large holes between texts in the witching hours or to worry about this shit.
Wtf man? Seriously. You say you don't do or put up with certain things...but you turn around and do them.

Author:  n2thevoid [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "As long as I'm calling the shots, I'm okay with it"

This guy's already down the rabbit hole. Sit back and watch him implode.

Author:  Arch Stanton [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "As long as I'm calling the shots, I'm okay with it"

She just texted me for sex. On her way. It's a fun rabbit hole, and ignoring the two texts worked.

I hear there might be Super Bowl highlights on ESPN?

Author:  neo87 [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "As long as I'm calling the shots, I'm okay with it"

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I don't think she's trash. I adore her.

If I didn't care, I wouldn't post this. I just don't care for this type of behavior. It happens rarely with her.

She's extremely attractive and would blow your mind in bed...enthusiastic beyond belief. Therefore, she's someone you have to play your cards right with until she's hooked.

Young women at this level can have who they want, when they want, and they cut guys loose without a hint of remorse.

Play the game or date ugly girls.
See, statements like the last one are rooted in scarcity and failure to look at yourself and see where you're lacking. Been to, and lived in many cities in the U.S and countries in the world; its just a plain falsehood that to be with hot women, you require all these headgames and who's chasing who nonsense. I get where it comes from; its easier to find girls who need alot of validation and game playing to keep their interest ; its harder to look at what girls you get and accept that you need to increase your internal value and mindset. Just like the girl who accepts men who will hit them will think, well getting beaten is just part of the game.

I even get the whole emphasis on who is chasing who; its easier to have a woman who is blowing up your phone and going crazy for your ATTENTION due to X mind game you're playing, than one who is crazy for YOU. I dont agree with it though, because the walking that thin line game of she's crazy for you if you're cold and you cant show any emotion unless its planned just sounds like too much work for me. You're reading a girl's messages like the FBI hunting a serial killer, if tomorrow you gave her a compliment you may lose her completely. All sounds so stressful, and unecessary, all that work for a girl, because you think thats just what it takes. I don't doubt that your experiences have given you this view that it's all this extra shit needed, thats why i say you should look at why you can only find hot girls like this.

As you said, you have to play your cards right till she's hooked, but from your previous description, she'll never be completely hooked, and once you show emotion towards her...poof. Im not knocking you, I actually admire that persistance...I'm just too lazy. Checking a girls phone and stuff to see whats up....having to even think i couldnt express myself how I wanted to? Thats work. Lets be real, you'll be checking this girls phone again any chance you get to see where you stand with her.

PS-Lol you know her friend didnt show you a text message from her...you saw it on her phone.

Author:  JackZero [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: "As long as I'm calling the shots, I'm okay with it"

Quote:
Quote:
I don't think she's trash. I adore her.

If I didn't care, I wouldn't post this. I just don't care for this type of behavior. It happens rarely with her.

She's extremely attractive and would blow your mind in bed...enthusiastic beyond belief. Therefore, she's someone you have to play your cards right with until she's hooked.

Young women at this level can have who they want, when they want, and they cut guys loose without a hint of remorse.

Play the game or date ugly girls.
See, statements like the last one are rooted in scarcity and failure to look at yourself and see where you're lacking. Been to, and lived in many cities in the U.S and countries in the world; its just a plain falsehood that to be with hot women, you require all these headgames and who's chasing who nonsense. I get where it comes from; its easier to find girls who need alot of validation and game playing to keep their interest ; its harder to look at what girls you get and accept that you need to increase your internal value and mindset. Just like the girl who accepts men who will hit them will think, well getting beaten is just part of the game.

I even get the whole emphasis on who is chasing who; its easier to have a woman who is blowing up your phone and going crazy for your ATTENTION due to X mind game you're playing, than one who is crazy for YOU. I dont agree with it though, because the walking that thin line game of she's crazy for you if you're cold and you cant show any emotion unless its planned just sounds like too much work for me. You're reading a girl's messages like the FBI hunting a serial killer, if tomorrow you gave her a compliment you may lose her completely. All sounds so stressful, and unecessary, all that work for a girl, because you think thats just what it takes. I don't doubt that your experiences have given you this view that it's all this extra shit needed, thats why i say you should look at why you can only find hot girls like this.

As you said, you have to play your cards right till she's hooked, but from your previous description, she'll never be completely hooked, and once you show emotion towards her...poof. Im not knocking you, I actually admire that persistance...I'm just too lazy. Checking a girls phone and stuff to see whats up....having to even think i couldnt express myself how I wanted to? Thats work. Lets be real, you'll be checking this girls phone again any chance you get to see where you stand with her.

PS-Lol you know her friend didnt show you a text message from her...you saw it on her phone.
This.

Remember how you told me 9/10s will chew you up and spit you out. This girl is chewing. The moment you lose your flavor you are going to be spit out because you're playing a short term game that is built on creating negative emotions and her seeking validation. If that's your game, that's fine and more power to you. The problem is that you adore her and you can't express, so you have to be fake until you can get your hooks into her while another guy is doing the same thing. The only thing that you can do right now is be her booty call and miss the ESPN highlights.

Author:  R.C [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:10 am ]
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I was gonna reply, but it's pointless.

You think beautiful women require games. Not to mention the instant pedestalization, but you'll be missing out on a lot of what you'd probably call "HB10" real high quality girls by doing this shit.

Quality people don't put up with this kind of bullshit, Arch. Neither men nor women.

Author:  breedlove465 [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: "As long as I'm calling the shots, I'm okay with it"

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This is a text I saw from my current fuck buddy, whom I now have feelings for (argh). Her friend showed it to me, and it was right when we first started hooking up about a month ago. She also said "He's no good for me, but I'm loving it".

This girl is extremely cool, but I've kept the frame to where she does 90% of the texting and contacting. She has taken this to mean that she's calling the shots. The reality is she's chasing me.

How long can I let her keep that illusion, and do you think it will effect my frame down the road via slow erosion?
So she told her friend that she's calling the shots. Duh. Girls always say that kind of crap to each other because they don't want their friends knowing that they have a guy that basically ignores her unless she texts them for dick. Never listen to a girl when she tells her friends (and take a grain of salt with it if she tells you) anything about her relationship or what she wants in a guy. Much of the time they are lying.

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