PUA Forum :: Friends take over

First question: how much do looks matter?

Ive been going out a lot and I beat my AA. I can talk to basically anyone. However, im still not getting anyone home. I talk to them, make physical contact, but every time the girl eventually chooses for one of my friends. I just dont know what to do any more. Every girl I approach seems to end up with one of my friends. I feel like im doing all the work and I just get left with nothing. Can it be looks? Cause thats what I think is happening.

We were talking for some time and touching eachother on the arm, waist or shoulder as we were speaking. Didnt kiss though and after maybe 20 minutes I think we had like a silent moment and thats when she started talking to my friend. I could see right away that she was interested in him right from that second. We didnt sprak anymore after that.

Maybe I should have escalated quicklier? I dont think I missed any opportunity though.

Have you got anyhing that explains this? Maybe a video or something which tells about becoming more seductive?

Author:	Nackopear [ Wed Nov 11, 2015 5:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Friends take over
First question: how much do looks matter? Ive been going out a lot and I beat my AA. I can talk to basically anyone. However, im still not getting anyone home. I talk to them, make physical contact, but every time the girl eventually chooses for one of my friends. I just dont know what to do any more. Every girl I approach seems to end up with one of my friends. I feel like im doing all the work and I just get left with nothing. Can it be looks? Cause thats what I think is happening.

Author:	JackZero [ Wed Nov 11, 2015 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Friends take over
Quote: First question: how much do looks matter? They matter until they don't matter. Quote: Ive been going out a lot and I beat my AA. I can talk to basically anyone. However, im still not getting anyone home. I talk to them, make physical contact, but every time the girl eventually chooses for one of my friends. I just dont know what to do any more. Every girl I approach seems to end up with one of my friends. I feel like im doing all the work and I just get left with nothing. Can it be looks? Cause thats what I think is happening. Not enough information here. It doesn't make sense that you can get to the point of physical contact, unless you're doing things like high fives or something friendly like that, and then get pushed to the side for one of your friends even if they are more physically attractive.

Author:	Nackopear [ Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Friends take over
We were talking for some time and touching eachother on the arm, waist or shoulder as we were speaking. Didnt kiss though and after maybe 20 minutes I think we had like a silent moment and thats when she started talking to my friend. I could see right away that she was interested in him right from that second. We didnt sprak anymore after that. Maybe I should have escalated quicklier? I dont think I missed any opportunity though.

Author:	JackZero [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:26 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Friends take over
Quote: We were talking for some time and touching eachother on the arm, waist or shoulder as we were speaking. Didnt kiss though and after maybe 20 minutes I think we had like a silent moment and thats when she started talking to my friend. I could see right away that she was interested in him right from that second. We didnt sprak anymore after that. Maybe I should have escalated quicklier? I dont think I missed any opportunity though. I still can't work with this. Was the conversation flirtatious? Was she interested? How long after the silent moment did she wait to start showing interest in your friend? Most importantly...why did you roll over and let your friend take her away?

Author:	Nackopear [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:49 am ]
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Conversation was flirtatious, but I cant tell of she was interested or not. I think that my friend took over maybe about 10 seconde after we fell silent, and we had no more talking or eye contact after that moment. The more I think about it, the more I realize it cant have been just the silent moment that killed everything. There was probably just not enough attraction to make her come back.

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Author:	RockstarPUA [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:55 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Friends take over
Really I like to KNOW a girl is into me within the first 5 minutes or so. Otherwise you find you've just wasted half an hour with friendly conversation with a girl who isnt interested. So really you need to amp up your sexual vibe much earlier. If you just have a feeling that the interaction is flirtatious, thats not really enough. Think back to some successes youve had in the past. Did you notice anything different from the get go? that almost intense feeling of tension and excitement and its kinda like your both just fighting to keep your hands off eachother. If youre not feeling that then youve really got to work hard to get the girl in my opinion. Work on your conversation and escalation skills. Maybe in the meantime have a word with whoever your with and let them know to maybe give you some space when youre with a girl. This will benefit your relationship with your friends as well, because you'll probably get more and more resentful and end up hating for friends for it.

Author:	Nackopear [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:23 am ]
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Have you got anyhing that explains this? Maybe a video or something which tells about becoming more seductive?

Author:	RockstarPUA [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:22 am ]
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There's literally hundreds of videos and articles out there i couldnt pick out just one, just do a google search for "how to flirt" "how to create sexual tension" etc. Be careful though there is also a lot of bad advice out there. I always tend to have a quick scan of the comments section first, to get some indication.

Author:	ChocolatePUA [ Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Friends take over
Quote: Have you got anyhing that explains this? Maybe a video or something which tells about becoming more seductive? IF you are in a night time environment (bar, club, etc) here's what you do. Escalate, escalate, escalate. Escalate the SHIT out of that bitch. Fuck this "touching the inside of elbow" bullshit. Throw your arm around her waist. Pull her close. Put your lips close to her ear so that she can "hear you above the music" ahem. Make sure your lips brush her ear and neck. Play with her hands. Stroke her. I've made out with multiple women within 5 minutes of an interaction. So can you. Pay attention to her body language and facial expression on your initial approach. Once she is receptive, escalate gradually but rapidly. THEN isolate. Take out the possibility of interruptions and create your own "bubble" where its just the two of you. You two are now a COUPLE and that creates certain things in her mind to decrease the likelihood of her running off to a hotter dude.

Author:	Eddie Fews [ Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:15 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Friends take over
Are you escalating right there on the spot? Are you going for kiss closes at least? Or are you just trying to pull the girl home before you make your move?

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