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Author:  resistence [ Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Out of nowhere: "Sorry, I don't love you anymore, bye bye".

Hey guys and girls,

would appreciate some advice on this one here. Thanks in advance.

The relationship was solid, almost 4 years. I'm 30, she is 26. It started as long distance relationship, she moved into my town after she got her degree, found work here and one or two female friends. We both made plans to move into one apartment within the next four months and had planed a trip to the US and A which she set up and an saving account - just a month ago - for. My idea was the trip, her idea was the saving account. During the week, she usually does her stuff and I do mine (I'm quite busy with university every week until all the exams are over) but we always see each other on the weekends. Always. She already has a job with an income but I'm still a university because I quit my job to get an higher degree which I will have in about six months.

Anyway, about three weeks ago, she started doing fitness again. This girly workout courses to lose weight. At the same time my friend's birthday comes up and she tells me she is not going with me because she is going out with a female friend named Svenja from work. Strange since she was also at his wedding but then again it's usually all males and only one or two females so I guess it is understandable. Still the first time in months that we had not spend the night on the weekend together.

Next weekend comes up, I tell her it is football on Friday so I'm going to watch football on my TV and she straight tells me she is not coming because she doesn't want to watch it. She is not really into football at all but still, I tell her the game is not important and I would love to have her over for a wine and stuff. She refuses. Next day she comes over in the morning and brings breakfast. After we had breakfast, first thing she does is going on my laptop and she starts looking for lollapalooza festival tickets. She had told me about the festival before but wasn't sure whether to go or not a couple of weeks back so I was a bit surprised. The festival is in another city where just recently a female co-worker moved, so she books her train and festival tickets. On that night, the two of us went to a birthday party of one of her female friends. Sunday was sexy time and a dinner afterwards.

So she visited the festival from Friday to Sunday and we texted for that time, nothing special. She returned late Sunday and we phoned on Monday, I tell her that I'm super sick but that I have to make it to university no matter what and can't take days off. The next day, she offers via text to bring me soup to my place at 10 p.m. after her workout stuff but had to be at university until 10 p.m. but still, I say thank you.

We agreed via text to meet on Thursday to have dinner. So we meet on Thursday and remember, we haven't seen each other in 10 days thanks to her festival visit. She is super excited to see me, all smiles and waving her hand for 30 seconds. Like seriously happy to see me. I tease her, tell her I'm still sick and I can't kiss her because than she would probably die that very instant because was still a bit sick at that time. She smiles and says: I don't care, I want my hello-kiss. Where is my kiss? I laugh and we kiss. We have dinner which was only okay because I was a bit off. She tells me that she is going to celebrate a birthday with her friends from the festival the next weekend. They would come from that other city to the one we live in. After the dinner I take her for a walk and explain that I'm a bit down because my mother was just diagnosed with breasts cancer and yeah, that obviously sucks. She hugs me a few times, says she is going to bring a wine and movies to cheer me up the next day (Friday). I ask her if I could come with her to that upcoming birthday party since my mother will have surgery in the next days, so I will spend most of my time in the hospital with my mother and I would appreciate some new faces. She kind of agrees.

We walk to the train station and suddenly she stops and asks me: Do you really want to come to that birthday party? I'm like, why? Why is that even a question. She replies: No, no it is not. I say I'm not a 100 % sure and I will let here know. We take the train and she stares at me for 2 minutes straight. I ask again: Everything okay? She says: Yeah, yes.

We get off, kiss and say good-bye.

Next day (Friday), she comes to my apartment as planed. Opens the door. In tears. "Look, we need to talk". We sit on my couch. "There is no easy way of saying this but I guess I don't love you anymore", she says. I'm still calm and collected but I ask her if this is some kind of joke. She says no, cries, says she is sorry multiple times and that I'm more of buddy to her than a boyfriend. I want to hug her but she screams "NOO, don't touch me" and that one my friends, that one really hurt.

Again, I ask her how that is even possible because of all her happiness she showed when she saw me yesterday, the waving, the full-time smile. She says that somehow a "button" was pushed in her mind and know she knows she doesn't love my anymore. We sit there in silence, she still in tears. I ask her to leave to have some space for myself, she agrees. She wants to give me her keys to my apartment but for some reason, I tell her to keep the keys as we can sort stuff out later. She keeps the keys, stays at my door and tells me that I could always contact her, always. I just stare at her, still sitting on my couch. I say nothing. A few seconds later, she complains: "Why don't you give me a proper good-bye"? I walk to the door, stare at her and realize she wants a hug, I say no and open the door.

Next day, I call her in the morning. I just say hi and wait for her to say something but she doesn't say much so I offer to bring her stuff over but she says she can come and pick it up but I insist. She agree sand cries a bit on the phone. I go over there, super awkward moments, we both don't know what to say. The whole time she avoids to look into my face. But I ask her again: Like seriously, what happened, is it because of that stupid birthday party? Is it because of my mother? She replies: No, it's because of that "button" in her head.

I ask for my keys and she reaches for the keys but her hand is shaking like crazy, like literally shaking as she hands over the keys. I go to her door, open the door a bit and close it again. She stares at me the whole time. As I close the door, I look back one more time and she opens her arms to hug me one last time but I tell her fare-well, wish her all the best and tell her that I don't want this anymore (to hug her). I leave and close the door.

20 minutes after I left her place, I get an e-mail, basically saying that "she really wished to spend the future with me", "she tried to push her feelings aways but was overwhelmed in the end and that's why she never had the courage to say anything", "she had loved me very dearly and deeply and hopes I know that", "she doesn't expect an answer but for the future, I could always contact her for whatever reasons, always".

----

That was a week ago, I haven't replied to her e-mail mainly because I still have no clue what happened here. It can happen, people stop loving, sure but to my understanding it starts with less sex, less "romantic" talk in the text messages and you wouldn't be that stoked to see your partner.

Looking back, I noticed that she told me cut my hair in a different way (but I'm happy the way it is, which I told her) or at out last visit to the mall, to buy these hip new pants (which I didn't buy because I like my style). She works in the fashion industry and designs clothes, I have an skate and surfing background so I wouldn't say I don't care about the way I dress.

What I also noticed, that some female friends she met at her company all have been single for years and that she never introduced me to any of these friends. She showed me pictures of them and always told me about their dinners and parties but there have been only a few over the past year. It just picked up the last four weeks ago when she met some new female friends at work and they went to these super hip places, places my social circle and the two of us would never have gone. Usually she doesn't drink much when we go out with my friends but there she would get more than a few beers, she would go for cocktails, shots and what not. These new girls just went to different locations than we would.

For me, it came out of nowhere. The last time she was on my laptop, she looked online for lamps and furniture for an apartment. So yeah, I don't really know what to do. Any ideas? Thanks again for reading.

Author:  neo87 [ Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Out of nowhere: "Sorry, I don't love you anymore, bye by

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Hey guys and girls,

would appreciate some advice on this one here. Thanks in advance.

The relationship was solid, almost 4 years. I'm 30, she is 26. It started as long distance relationship, she moved into my town after she got her degree, found work here and one or two female friends. We both made plans to move into one apartment within the next four months and had planed a trip to the US and A which she set up and an saving account - just a month ago - for. My idea was the trip, her idea was the saving account. During the week, she usually does her stuff and I do mine (I'm quite busy with university every week until all the exams are over) but we always see each other on the weekends. Always. She already has a job with an income but I'm still a university because I quit my job to get an higher degree which I will have in about six months.

Anyway, about three weeks ago, she started doing fitness again. This girly workout courses to lose weight. At the same time my friend's birthday comes up and she tells me she is not going with me because she is going out with a female friend named Svenja from work. Strange since she was also at his wedding but then again it's usually all males and only one or two females so I guess it is understandable. Still the first time in months that we had not spend the night on the weekend together.

Next weekend comes up, I tell her it is football on Friday so I'm going to watch football on my TV and she straight tells me she is not coming because she doesn't want to watch it. She is not really into football at all but still, I tell her the game is not important and I would love to have her over for a wine and stuff. She refuses. Next day she comes over in the morning and brings breakfast. After we had breakfast, first thing she does is going on my laptop and she starts looking for lollapalooza festival tickets. She had told me about the festival before but wasn't sure whether to go or not a couple of weeks back so I was a bit surprised. The festival is in another city where just recently a female co-worker moved, so she books her train and festival tickets. On that night, the two of us went to a birthday party of one of her female friends. Sunday was sexy time and a dinner afterwards.

So she visited the festival from Friday to Sunday and we texted for that time, nothing special. She returned late Sunday and we phoned on Monday, I tell her that I'm super sick but that I have to make it to university no matter what and can't take days off. The next day, she offers via text to bring me soup to my place at 10 p.m. after her workout stuff but had to be at university until 10 p.m. but still, I say thank you.

We agreed via text to meet on Thursday to have dinner. So we meet on Thursday and remember, we haven't seen each other in 10 days thanks to her festival visit. She is super excited to see me, all smiles and waving her hand for 30 seconds. Like seriously happy to see me. I tease her, tell her I'm still sick and I can't kiss her because than she would probably die that very instant because was still a bit sick at that time. She smiles and says: I don't care, I want my hello-kiss. Where is my kiss? I laugh and we kiss. We have dinner which was only okay because I was a bit off. She tells me that she is going to celebrate a birthday with her friends from the festival the next weekend. They would come from that other city to the one we live in. After the dinner I take her for a walk and explain that I'm a bit down because my mother was just diagnosed with breasts cancer and yeah, that obviously sucks. She hugs me a few times, says she is going to bring a wine and movies to cheer me up the next day (Friday). I ask her if I could come with her to that upcoming birthday party since my mother will have surgery in the next days, so I will spend most of my time in the hospital with my mother and I would appreciate some new faces. She kind of agrees.

We walk to the train station and suddenly she stops and asks me: Do you really want to come to that birthday party? I'm like, why? Why is that even a question. She replies: No, no it is not. I say I'm not a 100 % sure and I will let here know. We take the train and she stares at me for 2 minutes straight. I ask again: Everything okay? She says: Yeah, yes.

We get off, kiss and say good-bye.

Next day (Friday), she comes to my apartment as planed. Opens the door. In tears. "Look, we need to talk". We sit on my couch. "There is no easy way of saying this but I guess I don't love you anymore", she says. I'm still calm and collected but I ask her if this is some kind of joke. She says no, cries, says she is sorry multiple times and that I'm more of buddy to her than a boyfriend. I want to hug her but she screams "NOO, don't touch me" and that one my friends, that one really hurt.

Again, I ask her how that is even possible because of all her happiness she showed when she saw me yesterday, the waving, the full-time smile. She says that somehow a "button" was pushed in her mind and know she knows she doesn't love my anymore. We sit there in silence, she still in tears. I ask her to leave to have some space for myself, she agrees. She wants to give me her keys to my apartment but for some reason, I tell her to keep the keys as we can sort stuff out later. She keeps the keys, stays at my door and tells me that I could always contact her, always. I just stare at her, still sitting on my couch. I say nothing. A few seconds later, she complains: "Why don't you give me a proper good-bye"? I walk to the door, stare at her and realize she wants a hug, I say no and open the door.

Next day, I call her in the morning. I just say hi and wait for her to say something but she doesn't say much so I offer to bring her stuff over but she says she can come and pick it up but I insist. She agree sand cries a bit on the phone. I go over there, super awkward moments, we both don't know what to say. The whole time she avoids to look into my face. But I ask her again: Like seriously, what happened, is it because of that stupid birthday party? Is it because of my mother? She replies: No, it's because of that "button" in her head.

I ask for my keys and she reaches for the keys but her hand is shaking like crazy, like literally shaking as she hands over the keys. I go to her door, open the door a bit and close it again. She stares at me the whole time. As I close the door, I look back one more time and she opens her arms to hug me one last time but I tell her fare-well, wish her all the best and tell her that I don't want this anymore (to hug her). I leave and close the door.

20 minutes after I left her place, I get an e-mail, basically saying that "she really wished to spend the future with me", "she tried to push her feelings aways but was overwhelmed in the end and that's why she never had the courage to say anything", "she had loved me very dearly and deeply and hopes I know that", "she doesn't expect an answer but for the future, I could always contact her for whatever reasons, always".

----

That was a week ago, I haven't replied to her e-mail mainly because I still have no clue what happened here. It can happen, people stop loving, sure but to my understanding it starts with less sex, less "romantic" talk in the text messages and you wouldn't be that stoked to see your partner.

Looking back, I noticed that she told me cut my hair in a different way (but I'm happy the way it is, which I told her) or at out last visit to the mall, to buy these hip new pants (which I didn't buy because I like my style). She works in the fashion industry and designs clothes, I have an skate and surfing background so I wouldn't say I don't care about the way I dress.

What I also noticed, that some female friends she met at her company all have been single for years and that she never introduced me to any of these friends. She showed me pictures of them and always told me about their dinners and parties but there have been only a few over the past year. It just picked up the last four weeks ago when she met some new female friends at work and they went to these super hip places, places my social circle and the two of us would never have gone. Usually she doesn't drink much when we go out with my friends but there she would get more than a few beers, she would go for cocktails, shots and what not. These new girls just went to different locations than we would.

For me, it came out of nowhere. The last time she was on my laptop, she looked online for lamps and furniture for an apartment. So yeah, I don't really know what to do. Any ideas? Thanks again for reading.

Sorry for your loss. To be dumped after 4 years like that must be rough. Could be she was bored, could be she met a new guy, could be she wanted to be single. But none of that really matters imo. She dumped you like this in 2013. You went back. Sorry, but when a girl breaks up with you, let her go. If you had taken the advice then it wouldve hurt less than now 3 years later. This thread and your other should be combined and stickied to show guys to walk away, instead of trying to make it work with emotionally unstable chicks. Move on with your life, improve yourself and date again.

Author:  Spartan X [ Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Out of nowhere: "Sorry, I don't love you anymore, bye by

Stay strong bro,

Woman at that age just change, there is nothing you can really do about it. The same exact thing happened to me after a 3 year relationship. If she also said she loves you but isn't in love with you than she has been feeling that way for a while. Again she just changed..either what she wants in life the social circle she is in the kind of lifestyle she wants to live doesn't include you and you have to let it go. As hard and harsh as that may sound..you just have to let it go. You will never get a clear explanation, because that "button" is a change in her entirety. Start going to the gym to let off steam, focus on yourself for a bit becoming a better and stronger man. The fastest way to get over somebody is to get under somebody new!

Author:  J.Daniels [ Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Out of nowhere: "Sorry, I don't love you anymore, bye by

It's not as "out of nowhere" as you think. Women fall in love slowly, and out of love just as slowly. The signs would've been there, you just probably didn't know what to look for.

On the flip side, are you sure she hasn't cheated? The tears etc, sounds weird.

Don't call her and just say hi. Don't call at all.

If she calls you, invite her over to your place, at night, to "make dinner together" (to have sex lol). If she says anything about friendship, say you're only interested in her romantically and to call you when she changes her mind, then politely hang up.

This whole every weekend thing is a little predictable, too.

Also, these future plans... who brought them up the most? Women like to live in the moment, where guys like to have a step by step plan which women find boring. Did you bang on about the future too much? Just imagine that every time you bring the future up, you shrink your chance of being a part of it.

The step now is to give yourself a makeover in every way. Join a gym, change your hair, whiten your teeth, get a tan, get a whole new wardrobe, date as many new women as possible, take up a new hobby or get back to an old one, work on your pick up skills.

Oh and finally, that bit where you changed your mind about the football... don't do that shit. If she wanted to be there, she'd be there if you were watching football or not. You just made it a lot worse when you tried to change her mind. I'll admit it is a boring thing for a woman to do when she comes over, but hey if you feel like a quiet night in... then so be it.

Author:  Eddie Fews [ Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Out of nowhere: "Sorry, I don't love you anymore, bye by

Against my usually policy I actually read the whole thing. And just like everyone else, you're naively are presenting your story as if its something special and unusual. You threw in every single detail possible to give the impression that none of this makes sense, as if when dealing with emotions its suppose to. And I would of given you the same response I'm about to give you if all you post said was " Girl left out of no where. Everything was just perfect the other day". You're one of hundreds of thousands if not hundreds of millions who have all had the same experience .

The truth is... This didn't come out of no where. You just don't speak fluent "women" and weren't picking up on all the hints that she was dropping to let you know that this was coming. Your head was so far up your ass with school, sickness, your mom, and making excuses for her decisions that you're just now waking up to what was going on slowly but surely the entire time.

The thing is man.. You've been "down", your moms hasn't ben her best, you also haven't been feeling your best, and you've probably been stressed over school, and wanted the whole "supportive" that would be there to have your back just like your best buddy, when women don't necessarily operate that way. Especially if you're not holding up your end of the bargain, the end that was a close replica (but even better version) of the guy you were when she first met you and fell in love with you.

Touch love man: But she's behaving semi-guilty, and you may not want to here it but you need to tough up; her new friend is probably a "he".

Once a woman starts suddenly switching up routine, flaking, going out more, and not doing the shit that she usually does this is whats usually right around the corner. At that point its best for you to snap out of her, or get out of it before this is what you're left with. You're not respecting yourself. The moment she flaked on usually routine you were suppose to check her. A girl doesn't care what the activity is, if she loves you and is still into you she will watch you build a 30 foot statue of cube out of toothpicks.

Take the lesson and move forward man. Now you know what "out of no where" situations look like. And know what to do when one of your girlfriends suddenly decides she's going to switch up routine without discussing it with you first.

Leave her be man. She may try and come back around when some more guilt settles in, but LEAVE HER BE. i'm telling you. Be strong, finish school, and start building a better life for yourself.

Author:  vhou812 [ Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Out of nowhere: "Sorry, I don't love you anymore, bye by

Eddie is right. Signs were there, you just weren't paying attention and missed 'em. Learn from it.

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