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| Author: | Jasoule [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Scientific Explanation for Shit Tests and LMR? |
I have been looking through mountains of journals and I cannot find a single study that affirms the existence of shit tests or even why women test. We know that they exist because we have all experienced these little tests but why doesn't science seem to be aware of them. I also cannot find an explanation for last minute resistance, something most of us encounter. It would help to know why qualification seems to diminish LMR outside of the community. I have found studies that demonstrate social proof and preselection, negs, small to large qualification hoops increasing chances of compliance, and even have a study confirming that women can lose the power and become the pursuer but no sign of shit testing or LMR. WTF?! |
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| Author: | Monsignor Crisanto [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Scientific Explanation for Shit Tests and LMR? |
For shit tests, try the studies of Karl Grammer on non-verbal communication. Those papers explain rather well the whys and hows. For LMR, I still haven't looked for scientific journals on this. But one of these days, I will. It's just that I'm neck deep into the research and writing of two +100 pages each university papers on financial management right now. As to why shit tests and LMRs exist, it's basic animal kingdom mating rituals. Peacocks, chickens, horses, dolphins, prairie voles, chimpanzees, bonobos and so on have mating rituals. Human mating rituals though are more complex with the infusion of religion, social norms and mores. For prairie voles though, if the male rodent does not secrete enough masculine hormones that make the female rodent horny, he won't get laid. The girlie rodent will resist all of the low hormone male rodent's sexual advances. This is empirical evidence that basically dovetails with some parts of the human mating ritual sequence. |
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| Author: | Gallahad [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Scientific Explanation for Shit Tests and LMR? |
LMR is easy to explain. As a rule of thumb, most of pick up can be explained through social psychology and evolutionary psych. LMR is explained by evolutionary. LMR is like Mans version of approach anxiety, while we were tribal hunters and gatherers, trying to mate with the wrong woman/ in the wrong way could have resulted in a physical confrontation or in expulsion from the tribe, so this fear of approaching has been entrenched in Mans nature. On the flip side, LMR protected woman from being impregnated by the wrong man, which could lead to a myriad of issues like abandonment while vulnerable and pregnant/ wasting of child bearing yrs/ embarrassment from other members of tribe. Shit tests are less simple: they are a part of human nature, not just women's. We shit test perspective friends, inmates shit test in prison, there are endless examples. The basic principles are that we don't care about or want to be around people that we perceive as not valuable, once they prove to be cool/ fun/ attractive, we will be inclined to like them. |
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| Author: | Jay (Majik) [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Scientific Explanation for Shit Tests and LMR? |
Can you translate this to English for me? |
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| Author: | Jasoule [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Scientific Explanation for Shit Tests and LMR? |
Quote: For shit tests, try the studies of Karl Grammer on non-verbal communication. Those papers explain rather well the whys and hows.
Thanks will look into this
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| Author: | Jasoule [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Scientific Explanation for Shit Tests and LMR? |
Quote: LMR is easy to explain. As a rule of thumb, most of pick up can be explained through social psychology and evolutionary psych. LMR is explained by evolutionary. LMR is like Mans version of approach anxiety, while we were tribal hunters and gatherers, trying to mate with the wrong woman/ in the wrong way could have resulted in a physical confrontation or in expulsion from the tribe, so this fear of approaching has been entrenched in Mans nature. On the flip side, LMR protected woman from being impregnated by the wrong man, which could lead to a myriad of issues like abandonment while vulnerable and pregnant/ wasting of child bearing yrs/ embarrassment from other members of tribe.
Yes but what research do we have that confirms LMR is similar to approach anxiety (without the adrenaline... according to Mystery) and that it is actually biological and not conscious resistance. I have had LMR with girls a few times but I can't put them into an MRI to see what is going on in their heads when I'm trying to get laid lol.Shit tests are less simple: they are a part of human nature, not just women's. We shit test perspective friends, inmates shit test in prison, there are endless examples. The basic principles are that we don't care about or want to be around people that we perceive as not valuable, once they prove to be cool/ fun/ attractive, we will be inclined to like them. Also the only evidence that I have found for shit tests and the existence of filters is something known as "filter theory". It explains that we look for relationships (friends and lovers) that best fit our own personal needs and interests such as similarities, propinquity, etc. It doesn't explain how women challenge men during the mate selection process. Shit tests come in different categories. They also don't just happen in pickup. Women test men throughout the relationship. It's how she gives him a "mentally challenging" relationship. I have found that negging, dominant behavior (cavemanning, AMOGing, etc.), over-aggressive advances, and appearing weak or needy after previously being controlled and alpha seeming to trigger shit tests. Knowing more about this phenomenon and how it relates to the mating process could prove beneficial as it may be a way a woman screens a man out for value because they seem to become more attracted when he "passes the test" (whatever the f%#k that qualifies as in the woman's brain). Thanks anyway though |
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| Author: | R.C [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Scientific Explanation for Shit Tests and LMR? |
Yes. Please try to explain emotional responses with science. Please. |
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