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Author:  Kyzee [ Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:04 am ]
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Excuse me for my bad grammar please, I am not a native English speaker...

I have a friend (girl), we know each other for around 4 years but I've never tried to get involved into anything more than a friendship with her. So after I've started to get into whole PUA mastery (still learning) I decided to make a move on her. So we started texting for a bit, I asked her out, we went out. Little bit of kino escalation, she was having fun all the time, me too to be honest. Didn't finish with a kiss and I already had her number so...yeah I made a mistake there cause I didn't take any action. Notice that this is very beginning for me so I have still MANY flaws in my tactic. So after this thing, I kept studying and read a lot more about...why to hesitate and not to take a move, if she doesn't want to have sex with me she won't do it anyway. I'm like fuck it, let's go straight for it. I asked her to come to my place to watch a movie (she is not f-ing dumb so i expected her to know what do i mean by it). She's like "yeah! sure! when?" . We set a time and a place (my place 3 days from this time), see you then blah blah. She texts me next day about the movie choice so we had this one movie we both wanted to watch and I'm like, yeah see you on a Thursday(yesterday) then.
Thursday comes. No message. No call. She didn't show up. She's active on facebook and not responding to my one message that I sent her. I've made a mistake about calling her twice around an hour after she was supposed to show up.
Since that time, no communication between us. Every time I talked to her she seemed friendly, laughed at my jokes. Up until this point i felt like I did it right.

Now, I don't take this as my personal loss or anything, I simply have to improve my game in every aspect however...I would like to ask you guys about your opinion. Why would she agree to come to my place, contact me about the movie choice next day and then do this. Did she panic? Was I too slow? I should have kissed her on a first date but...Where else did i fuck up?

Author:  Dragula [ Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:27 am ]
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Seemed that you got too needy after she said yes to come to your place. Has she read your Facebook messages?

Play it smoother next time. Just kinda "text n forget" type of mindset.

Author:  R.C [ Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:48 am ]
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Because she's a woman.

Women live in the moment much more than men do. Don't make a habit of holding them to their word as you would a man, you'll end up in disappointment more often than you'd like.
if she agrees to a date on Sunday now, that means that in this moment she wants to go out with you on Sunday. That has absolutely 0 relevance towards what she will feel when Sunday actually comes along.

Some fuckups will definitely be on you but unless they're obvious mistakes don't lose sleep over it. Like calling after she flaked.

Other than that, knowing her for 4 years with no sexual history.. yeah. Women tend to shut themselves off sexually towards a guy if he's shown no explicit sign of interest within a few months of meeting them.

I'm not sure you made any major mistakes, other than maybe projecting various levels of neediness. But that's unavoidable at the early stages.

Author:  Kyzee [ Fri Aug 07, 2015 3:37 pm ]
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After I checked my messages you were both right. I've checked my messages with her and from a look of an uninterested person I would be definitely the one chasing after her. Not the other way around. And her IOIs just made me feel too happy about the way things were going..I played it all wrong after all :D nevermind. Thank you, lesson learned.

Author:  Kyzee [ Fri Aug 07, 2015 3:43 pm ]
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Because she's a woman.

Women live in the moment much more than men do. Don't make a habit of holding them to their word as you would a man, you'll end up in disappointment more often than you'd like.
if she agrees to a date on Sunday now, that means that in this moment she wants to go out with you on Sunday. That has absolutely 0 relevance towards what she will feel when Sunday actually comes along.
Would you suggest to call and try to meet on a same day? That's what you're saying? Or just the fact that I cannot rely on anything they say. Unless it's exactly about the moment they're living right now. Or both :D

And I'm not looking for my fuck ups because I am "losing sleep over it". I'm just trying to get opinion from more experienced people. Learning at my own mistakes.

Author:  Eddie Fews [ Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:53 pm ]
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Who knows man.. She may of backed out, but when a girl flakes you have to fight everything in your being to leave her the hell alone. You sent her the one message and thats all that need be done. Its not like she's going to answer the third call and say " I know ignored your messaged, and your last few calls, but since you called me a third time. I'm going to come".

Self control is really the key to this game man. Resisting the weak emotions and building higher levels of dignity that make you more attractive to women in the future. Its not always about the woman of the moment, a lot of times its about how handling the one situation of this moment will effect the next 10 situations you have in the future. I know when we get close we want to do everything in our power to capitalize on our investment, but resistance is what builds us into stronger and more attractive men. This is about building your frame and your mindset.

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