PUA Forum :: How much have you changed?

How have I changed? Well I have always been funny and cocky...it's just who I am. Some may say I am little more reserved now, but that's because I stopped being "that funny guy" and became more mysterious and learned to listen more. I was doing open mic since I was a young teen so that gave me confidence. I was still shitless of touching girls though. Once I punched myself to approach, and once I got a decent initial reaction I could talk to women no problem for hours on end, I just couldn't put the moves on them. When I fixed my inner game to realise escalation is everything my game rocketed. I got laid before I joined here, had a few girlfriends but it was more down to luck and some decent verbal game I had naturally rather than real sexual game that I do now.

My style changed a lot, I couldn't dress for shit back then and maybe owned two pairs of jeans and two pairs of shoes. I have over 10 pairs of jeans/chinos now and nearly 30 pairs of shoes. As well as that my clothes fit now as I have learned the basics of snug shirts and jackets. I also learned how to match pieces and to dress according to my skin tone and my hair.

I was always athletic and pretty muscular, well toned at least. I have increased my mass, but that's more to do with sport demands than this.

My hair is still a little outlandish but not as bad as it was. I ditched the high shine gel for matte fibres and have more easy going styles that are versatile.

I focused a lot on body language. I was always conscious over things like my posture and how I walked so I actively worked on that. People know me now as "that guy with the shoulders" as my shoulders are rock solid with scapulas naturally squeezed back now, with chest pressed out. This was key as I felt confident and dominant as that's how I looked and it really benefited me. Before, even when fighting with guys, I'd have to use my words and often my fists to sort issues, but now because my body language is co upright and confident, I usually don't get shit from people any more. I have also observed that women feel safer around me than before as they see me like a cuddly body guard.

-Dilla

Author:	J.Daniels [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:32 am ]
Post subject:	How much have you changed?
I'm just curious how much your lives have changed since you first found this stuff, and how long you've been doing it... I've got a thread on mine, so I won't go into detail, but to cut a long story short: I was a "nice guy" (needy bitch who got no pussy) like you see in films, but it didn't work like it does in films. I got dumped, set myself some goals, joined a gym, lost weight, got qualifications, got better looking, got better girls, got better game, got over it. I feel like mine is pretty much identical to 90% of other guys. Would be cool to see before and after pics of guys, too... but that's probably a little risky

Author:	R.C [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:51 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How much have you changed?
I can't say my life changed from discovering the community. Then again I was never bad at this either. One day a chick called me out on being a "pua". I had no clue what she was talking about so she showed me Mystery's show. Watched a couple of episodes together then I stumbled across the forum. Most of the things I was already doing I found had a name. It was interesting. Then came all the shitstorm NLP tactics, scripted lines and canned openers. I never did nor do I agree with being a tech. You can only fake it for so long until her superior perception and intuition will kick in. I agree with the core fundamentals, but an overwhelming amount of information is complete garbage. Nevertheless being exposed to all this diversity helped me better understand what attractive behavior is and made it easier for me to recognize it in others. Men and women. I consider myself better than 90% of the people out there. That didn't change. I just have a sharper sense of detecting and appreciating quality when I see it.

Author:	Dilla [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:52 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How much have you changed?
How have I changed? Well I have always been funny and cocky...it's just who I am. Some may say I am little more reserved now, but that's because I stopped being "that funny guy" and became more mysterious and learned to listen more. I was doing open mic since I was a young teen so that gave me confidence. I was still shitless of touching girls though. Once I punched myself to approach, and once I got a decent initial reaction I could talk to women no problem for hours on end, I just couldn't put the moves on them. When I fixed my inner game to realise escalation is everything my game rocketed. I got laid before I joined here, had a few girlfriends but it was more down to luck and some decent verbal game I had naturally rather than real sexual game that I do now. My style changed a lot, I couldn't dress for shit back then and maybe owned two pairs of jeans and two pairs of shoes. I have over 10 pairs of jeans/chinos now and nearly 30 pairs of shoes. As well as that my clothes fit now as I have learned the basics of snug shirts and jackets. I also learned how to match pieces and to dress according to my skin tone and my hair. I was always athletic and pretty muscular, well toned at least. I have increased my mass, but that's more to do with sport demands than this. My hair is still a little outlandish but not as bad as it was. I ditched the high shine gel for matte fibres and have more easy going styles that are versatile. I focused a lot on body language. I was always conscious over things like my posture and how I walked so I actively worked on that. People know me now as "that guy with the shoulders" as my shoulders are rock solid with scapulas naturally squeezed back now, with chest pressed out. This was key as I felt confident and dominant as that's how I looked and it really benefited me. Before, even when fighting with guys, I'd have to use my words and often my fists to sort issues, but now because my body language is co upright and confident, I usually don't get shit from people any more. I have also observed that women feel safer around me than before as they see me like a cuddly body guard. -Dilla

Author:	sapipa [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How much have you changed?
Quote: How have I changed? Well I have always been funny and cocky...it's just who I am. Some may say I am little more reserved now, but that's because I stopped being "that funny guy" and became more mysterious and learned to listen more. I was doing open mic since I was a young teen so that gave me confidence. I was still shitless of touching girls though. Once I punched myself to approach, and once I got a decent initial reaction I could talk to women no problem for hours on end, I just couldn't put the moves on them. When I fixed my inner game to realise escalation is everything my game rocketed. I got laid before I joined here, had a few girlfriends but it was more down to luck and some decent verbal game I had naturally rather than real sexual game that I do now. My style changed a lot, I couldn't dress for shit back then and maybe owned two pairs of jeans and two pairs of shoes. I have over 10 pairs of jeans/chinos now and nearly 30 pairs of shoes. As well as that my clothes fit now as I have learned the basics of snug shirts and jackets. I also learned how to match pieces and to dress according to my skin tone and my hair. I was always athletic and pretty muscular, well toned at least. I have increased my mass, but that's more to do with sport demands than this. My hair is still a little outlandish but not as bad as it was. I ditched the high shine gel for matte fibres and have more easy going styles that are versatile. I focused a lot on body language. I was always conscious over things like my posture and how I walked so I actively worked on that. People know me now as "that guy with the shoulders" as my shoulders are rock solid with scapulas naturally squeezed back now, with chest pressed out. This was key as I felt confident and dominant as that's how I looked and it really benefited me. Before, even when fighting with guys, I'd have to use my words and often my fists to sort issues, but now because my body language is co upright and confident, I usually don't get shit from people any more. I have also observed that women feel safer around me than before as they see me like a cuddly body guard. -Dilla " When I fixed my inner game to realise escalation is everything " What exactly do you mean by this?

Author:	DW-Heart-Charmer [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:45 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How much have you changed?
Quote: I can't say my life changed from discovering the community. Then again I was never bad at this either. A good place to be! My life changed significantly when I first found all of this. I was shy and so scared of the world, women, people and etc. Then it all changed and it changed so drastically. Where I think the next change for me is just as drastic. Make those kind of moves and I think game becomes superpowers. Just my theory, but intermediate to expert could be just as similar then newbie to good with girls. I think would be beneficial for most to all strive for major difference. That is where the comfort zones will get pushed and growth will happen.

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Author:	Reaver4k [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How much have you changed?
I'm going through the proscess of changing, my biggest improvement i'm starting not to give a shit of I women rejects me, My biggest problem right now is self-esteam, which likly is why I've had so much trouble with women in the past, which has been improving over the last 2 months.. the other problem I have\had is shyness and approach anxiety.

Author:	J.Daniels [ Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:52 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How much have you changed?
Quote: I'm going through the proscess of changing, my biggest improvement i'm starting not to give a shit of I women rejects me, My biggest problem right now is self-esteam, which likly is why I've had so much trouble with women in the past, which has been improving over the last 2 months.. the other problem I have\had is shyness and approach anxiety. Approach anxiety will never go, but you've got to try and learn to appreciate it... kind of like the pain in the gym - it'll never go, but it'll be less and less and it'll take more and more to feel the same level of pain. Imagine you start working out and you bench press 50kg for 4 sets of 8 reps... the next day you'll be in absolute agony. But a year later, you could probably do that same workout and feel nothing... cause you'd be so much stronger. It's the same with game. You start out and it takes guts to even open an ugly woman just to ask for directions and get yourself warmed up, it scares you... but then a year later, you'd only feel the same amount of fear if you did something like walked up to 3 girls and 2 guys to game what you guessed was the single girl... the key is to think to yourself "this fear, is me getting better" As for being shy, you just have to completely throw yourself at a situation without even thinking. Get yourself to the point where you're in too deep to back out before you even realise what you're doing. If you meet a new person... ask them something about themselves instantly, just break the ice without even thinking about what to say, and keep doing this over and over... It sometimes helps to purposely say something stupid, too. It shows you that it doesn't even matter if you end up looking silly.

Author:	DW-Heart-Charmer [ Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:54 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How much have you changed?
Quote: I'm going through the proscess of changing, my biggest improvement i'm starting not to give a shit of I women rejects me, My biggest problem right now is self-esteam, which likly is why I've had so much trouble with women in the past, which has been improving over the last 2 months.. the other problem I have\had is shyness and approach anxiety. Right on bro, you'll get there!

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