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Author:  takky [ Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:02 am ]
Post subject:  Freeze out by girls
Ok, look at this: i am talking to two set, have social hook point and then girls start to chat togethet about other guys and i am staying there like a jerk. What should i do?

And i know, they want to talk to me just for a while for the first part of the night, but when should i end my interaction? My attested method is go to them - aprroach with little confident style (still congruent), have a small talk with cocky funny theme for a 5 min and then go for drinks and done. After drinks I should say "it was nice to meet you, but i have to go back to my friends" (Then i should reapproach and talk to them later). If not i will get this freeze out. Do you ever continue after taking a drinks?

And the last think: bigger set = bigger probability of freeze out (even before drinks)

So, how you react on this? Do you continue plowing with hope of getting attention (persistent style) or just walk away (high value style)? Or you try to join their conversation (i think its bullshit and in a lot of cases impossible because they are talking about their social circle and you are totally out of frame)?
Author:  Crystalyst [ Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Freeze out by girls
Look, if you're on your own and you approach two girls, they are wondering which of them you want, assuming they both aren't thinking about how much they want you to get away from them. Then they realize only one can have you as they aren't out for a threesome. Then they figure out which one you're after. (Girls are freaky and socially in tune more than we'll ever be) Then the other one derails you by pulling her friend away and focusing her on something else.

Was out a couple weeks ago and actually made out with one of the girls in a two set while her friend was grabbing a drink. Well, her friend ended up seeing, was clearly unhappy and literally pulled her friend away from me. Didn't get a number or anything. Poof, they were just gone. Point is, they aren't out to watch their friend get lucky while they sit there staring at their drink. They are going to be selfish since your target is her friend and you are just some random bar dude that dropped some good game.

The longer you hold the set, the more they will catch on to which of them you are after, which will lead to the other one trying to sabotage your efforts.

If both of them seem to just look away and not want to talk to you anymore and you aren't hitting that 5 minute mark, chances are they just aren't interested in you and are giving you not so subtle hints.

I've found bigger sets are easier. You have a built in wingmen. As long as the group is comfortable with you being there and you make it seem as if you belong. Much easier to isolate a girl when she's in a larger group than when she's just out with her friends.

When I feel i've lost a girl, I just say "hey, great meeting you i've got to get back to my friends now. See you around". If they liked you, will be easy to reinitiate. If not, well, who cares. You're probably already onto your next victim.
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Freeze out by girls
When a woman begins to ignore you and talk to her friends after you approach I would think thats a clear sign that she is telling you to go away. When someone ignores you what do you think that means? That they would like it if you would stop talking to them. Right?

I wouldn't waste my energy trying to plow through an outright rejection. Especially in a club environment thats filled with many another women to talk to. Light rejections can be plowed through, a lot of them are test of your character, but when a girl blatantly turns to her friend and pretends you're not there I think the best thing to do is to open a new set. Especially while you're at this level. The level that would lead you to ask such a question.

Knowing when to walk away is powerful. And any man that both loves and respects himself won't spend time giving further attention to someone who is clearly giving him none.
Author:  takky [ Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Freeze out by girls
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I've found bigger sets are easier. You have a built in wingmen. As long as the group is comfortable with you being there and you make it seem as if you belong. Much easier to isolate a girl when she's in a larger group than when she's just out with her friends.
Once I got this freeze out by a 4-set because of cockblocker. She was trying to insult me and to get attention of the group. She was the leader of the group, she was the one who talk with me at the most of time and as she started to ignore me and talk to the other girls I kept calm and said goodbye to the group. Then two other of the girls went up to me and wanted to highfive.

I realized that there are always girls who like me and I just gotta find them :)
Author:  n2thevoid [ Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Freeze out by girls
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I've found bigger sets are easier. You have a built in wingmen. As long as the group is comfortable with you being there and you make it seem as if you belong. Much easier to isolate a girl when she's in a larger group than when she's just out with her friends.
Once I got this freeze out by a 4-set because of cockblocker. She was trying to insult me and to get attention of the group. She was the leader of the group, she was the one who talk with me at the most of time and as she started to ignore me and talk to the other girls I kept calm and said goodbye to the group. Then two other of the girls went up to me and wanted to highfive.

I realized that there are always girls who like me and I just gotta find them :)
This. Why waste time on frumps and girls who aren't interested in getting to know you
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