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| Author: | Safro [ Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Did I mess up before I even started?? |
Background info: So this girl was in my math class and we didn't really talk that much, just saying hi to each other or she would come from time to time to ask for my help with homework. I have always considered her attractive, but I had other things going on in my life and never paid much attention to her. We started to talk more in the last few weeks of school when we had more group activities and I was always making fun of her and teasing her, and she was always smiling or laughing. In the last day of school she said that we might see each other at parties ( I have her on snapchat and she always sees me partying) . At the graduation, she asked her mom to take a picture with me and then I said " We are going to hang out this summer, okay?" and she nodded her head and said yes. Like 4-5 days after graduation I texted her to give me the picture that she took of us and then I asked her out ( not right after, it was some fluff talk in-between) and then she read my message but never replied. And she always responded to my other texts like after hours. Now I know that it means that she's not interested, but I'm just wondering what did I do wrong? I'm not going to text her, but if I see her at a party or public place how should I behave? PS: I read other articles about seduction, but this is my first time on this forum. If there are similar posts, just reply with the link, Thank you. |
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| Author: | CharlesFinley [ Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Did I mess up before I even started?? |
Not interested. Doesn't want to hurt your feelings. I'm not clear on whether you asked her for the pic, said some fluff and then up and asked her out without some interaction on her part, or whether it was conversational. I mean, this is one paragraph of detail, and you didn't include the texts... Pretty tough to give you a solid read on the situation. |
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| Author: | Eddie Fews [ Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Did I mess up before I even started?? |
From my perspective you were always in the friend zone. Meaning, you never generated any attraction; there was just friendly exchanges between the two of you. Was her non response to the text message the last contact? And how did you ask her out? What did you say? You have to provide a bit more info if you want to know where things went left. |
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| Author: | Safro [ Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Did I mess up before I even started?? |
Quote: Not interested. Doesn't want to hurt your feelings.
I asked for the pic, then I was like " what are you doing these days?" and she responded with " nothing much to be honest haha" and then I said " How about we meet tomorrow?" and she didn't reply anymore... I know it sounds super straight forward but we've talked before about hanging out and I just wanted to use thr phone to set up a date, not for talking..
I'm not clear on whether you asked her for the pic, said some fluff and then up and asked her out without some interaction on her part, or whether it was conversational. I mean, this is one paragraph of detail, and you didn't include the texts... Pretty tough to give you a solid read on the situation. |
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| Author: | CharlesFinley [ Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Did I mess up before I even started?? |
Quote: Quote: Not interested. Doesn't want to hurt your feelings.
I asked for the pic, then I was like " what are you doing these days?" and she responded with " nothing much to be honest haha" and then I said " How about we meet tomorrow?" and she didn't reply anymore... I know it sounds super straight forward but we've talked before about hanging out and I just wanted to use thr phone to set up a date, not for talking..I'm not clear on whether you asked her for the pic, said some fluff and then up and asked her out without some interaction on her part, or whether it was conversational. I mean, this is one paragraph of detail, and you didn't include the texts... Pretty tough to give you a solid read on the situation. While that's an ok rule - you went from zero to 100 by asking one question then asking for a date. You gotta warm her up a little bit... Particularly because attraction isn't there (or it's limited). Better yet: call. Then you'll have your answer and you wouldn't have to worry about it. |
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| Author: | magipimp [ Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Did I mess up before I even started?? |
I know this is just nit picking, but your close was vauge. "How about we hang out tomorrow?" Basically translates to - "Are we going to take this to the next level? Yes or No." This method seems to only work if everything up to that was done with her already being interested in hanging out with you. Sort of an ultimatum close. You could have done things like find out stuff she likes that you like, and then painted the picture of you doing it in an emotionally charging way. Getting her excited, and then inviting her along on this fun adventure. Like I said it sounds nit picky, but one is an exciting emotional experience at a specific time and place, and the other is a logical date request at an undisclosed location and time. |
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| Author: | Safro [ Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Did I mess up before I even started?? |
I get your point, it's just that she was taking hours to respond for the others texts so if I would have waited to build up an emotional experience it would have probably lasted 2 days before I would have asked her out... Yeah now I see my mistake, thanks.... So if I see this girl at a party, should I try to escalate with her? Slowly escalating of course... Or should I just drop it? |
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| Author: | magipimp [ Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Did I mess up before I even started?? |
Oh Safro, one thing you have to know about this world is... have you have very limited control over other people. Especially during text game. There are tons of ways of punishing and rewarding and influcing others to text how you want to them to, but in the end there are no guarantees they will get right back to you. So you have to tap the other girls in your pipeline. Lets call a number a prospect. A girl interested but may or may not close. Only a certain number of your prospects will close. When you figure out how many prospects you need for one close you keep replenishing your prospect base to always keep a fresh flow of closes. I don't know how skilled you are in text conversion, but 10 is a great solid number for a guy with some semblance of what he's doing. So if 1 girl in that 10 prospect base will close then you always need 10 prospects. We'll say they maintain prospect status as long as you don't think they've gone cold or agreed to a date. But don't make the mistake of getting a date out of your 10 and thinking you still have 9 other prospects to work. It means you need to go get 10 new prospects, or numbers to ensure your next close. Of course you still need to work every prospect though in order to not miss anything. |
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