PUA Forum :: Walt Disney - Prince charming?

It has been notable for some time that showering a girl with gifts, acting like prince charming just does not work. I am wondering if anyone can explain to me where these ideas come from?

Obviously if you ask any young girl she wishes to marry some prince on a horse and live happily ever after, and obviously girls state that they want this. Yet why is it the case they think this? but also there are stories being made of this situation? Is it just super betas making these stories as they are soppy assed bitches? Or is it woman making these from their fantasys that don't end up getting them wet?

Something that I was trying to think of an answer all day and the only conclusion I could think of is that it originates from a girls childhood where before the whole attraction thing comes into play, its a fairy tale that carrys on with them through life on how a princess should get treated.

Ideas?

Author:	yolofear [ Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:55 pm ]
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It has been notable for some time that showering a girl with gifts, acting like prince charming just does not work. I am wondering if anyone can explain to me where these ideas come from? Obviously if you ask any young girl she wishes to marry some prince on a horse and live happily ever after, and obviously girls state that they want this. Yet why is it the case they think this? but also there are stories being made of this situation? Is it just super betas making these stories as they are soppy assed bitches? Or is it woman making these from their fantasys that don't end up getting them wet? Something that I was trying to think of an answer all day and the only conclusion I could think of is that it originates from a girls childhood where before the whole attraction thing comes into play, its a fairy tale that carrys on with them through life on how a princess should get treated. Ideas?

Author:	yolofear [ Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:16 pm ]
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anyone?

Author:	Noone [ Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:37 pm ]
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Quote: It has been notable for some time that showering a girl with gifts, acting like prince charming just does not work. I am wondering if anyone can explain to me where these ideas come from? Obviously if you ask any young girl she wishes to marry some prince on a horse and live happily ever after, and obviously girls state that they want this. Yet why is it the case they think this? but also there are stories being made of this situation? Is it just super betas making these stories as they are soppy assed bitches? Or is it woman making these from their fantasys that don't end up getting them wet? Something that I was trying to think of an answer all day and the only conclusion I could think of is that it originates from a girls childhood where before the whole attraction thing comes into play, its a fairy tale that carrys on with them through life on how a princess should get treated. Ideas? I'm no expert in Pick-Up. I'm new and learning. Though, the one thing I know from experience and general observation: Women don't actually know what they want. I believe there is a video by the Men's Room with Mark Sparks where he goes out and asks women the best way to pick up a girl in the bar. Pretty much, never do any of what a girl suggests. Only once did a girl help my game and that was my texting game. I know the principal rule of never buying something for a girl unless you've slept with her or you are dating. I remember picking up a girl at an outdoor bar in frosh week. I am terrible with women but I walked through this 2 set and I stopped, started chatting, told the shy girl she had pretty eyes. Her friend turned to her and said, "See! I told you! Aren't her eyes amazing?". I never go direct but I had seemingly hit on something mentioned earlier. She didn't have a number yet since she just moved but she gave me her facebook. I did end up sleeping with her twice in one night a few weeks later. Although, during the set, they were mentioning how there were a couple of guys about to buy them drinks and how I should do the same, I said, "No, I don't buy girls drinks. Tell you what, you go find those guys, get your free drinks and come find me when you have them." Sure enough. They left. Got their free drinks and came back to find me. I think where the idea of showering a girl with gifts comes from evolutionary psychology though. Women prefer men who can support them and offer them resources so their offspring will survive. Gift giving is one way of showing that. I have enough resources for myself so I can spare some to give to you. Thing is, this only works if the girl already has invested into you. It doesn't work as an attraction method it is more suitable during relationships because she's already invested time, resources and effort into you. You are rewarding and thus showing you have value as a man by gift-giving at a certain level. If you're bartering for her affection by giving free resources before she's invested in you. You are just a beta male who she can manipulate into receiving things that she wants. An alpha gets his choice of the lot and thus does not give resources freely to females before they've earned it from him. Just my two cents.

Author:	yolofear [ Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:10 pm ]
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True that. I enjoyed reading your response, it has me thinking. With regards to walt disney though, you wouldn't say treating her like a princess is what you would do eventually, rather than shower her with gifts.

Author:	Noone [ Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:20 pm ]
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Quote: True that. I enjoyed reading your response, it has me thinking. With regards to walt disney though, you wouldn't say treating her like a princess is what you would do eventually, rather than shower her with gifts. Once you are in a long term relationship, you should always treat her well. Don't be a door mat. You have your values, you can only compromise so much, but you have to keep giving her the "rocks" as I believe it was put in "The Game". You have to take her out, you have to make sure you let her know she's beautiful, you need to excite her. Getting her a gift that means something is always welcome, I think. But it can't be, Oh I bought you a shit load of perfume, every day, that's meaningless. If you walk by something in a store, it reminds you of your girl, get it, tell her why. If you take her for granted once you've gotten her. From my latest experience. Someone else won't. They will run a boyfriend destroyer routine on her and after awhile, if there's insecurities, it works. So, listen to your girl, if she wants to travel, take a trip. Just don't take her on a million trips all of the time. It's balance.

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Author:	Versalis [ Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:33 am ]
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I think you're correct with the thought that it stems from childhood. Prince Charming is actually most of the things a woman would like, except for his lack of sexual aggressiveness and likely clinginess. Rather than looking to Disney, romance novels are probably a better source. Generally speaking, the male leads in these books are indeed wealthy or powerful in some way, as well as being tall, well built and handsome. He's basically a rugged, sexualized version of Prince Charming. Much like Prince Charming, he is devoted to the womam and has to save her, though it's usually a different order(she wants him first and has to win him over and usually she gets drawn into his drama instead of the other way around).

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