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| Author: | Moscow [ Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | I'm getting rejected on makeouts but still manage to pull? |
So recently, I have been going out 3 nights a week for a couple months, all I can say is WOW, my game has improved tenfold to levels I never knew existed. I am so far beyond worrying about what to say or how to open, that it seems like a joke to me that I used to be worried about that. My kino has become CONSTANT, there is not an interaction where I am not holding the girl in my arms or have her holding me. Furthermore, I've become extremely solid at "vibing" which is kind of due to the above points I have made. Persistence has also become one of my most valuable weapons, I understand that a rejection is not the end unless it's a hard rejection (never really happens), I'll try to make out with girls consistently, I am resilient and this is one of my greatest strengths. I'm also socially aware enough to the point where I reaize if I'm being creepy or awkaward or inappropriate in, literally, under a second, and I can correct my behaviour right away, often befoe girl even reacts to it. However, with every "level up" come new challenges. Feel free, (please do) provide some insight into my latest sticking points. I have been frequenting a college bar, I won't disclose the name, but the majority of girls are Ivy league girls or other very well of chicks, this is entirely besides the point though. I have noticed a pattern in my game, but first I should paint a picture of the venue for you guys. It is EXTREMELY packed, with almost no private places to isolate. The majority of the people know each other. Mostly filled with greek life participants. So I'll be with a girl and everything will be going great, I'll be doing the whole nine yards, kino, teasing, whatever the shit we are supposed to do. However, when i try to go for makeouts I'll get rejected....but not an overall rejection....the girl will stay with me and it will still feel "on" she'll be flirting with me, asking questions, hitting me playfully. On a few occasions, I pulled the girl without even making out with her until I'm in bed with her. Often times, I'll start getting serious LMR, but I will always persist, unless it becomes to rapey--never does because I'm socially aware. Other times, I'll makeout with a girl, but after that, I will get rejected, no pull, no number. What's the deal? Are the girls feeling to slutty? Am I not building enough comfort? Usually, my interactions are very fast, I think my expected time interval for pulling is too short, I expect 20-30 minutes for it to be good to go, this is likely due to the fact that my first ever pulls were extremely fast. I do attempt to isolate the girl to different parts of the bar, but being extremely packed, there is not much privacy. Please give me your insights into my sticking point. |
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| Author: | WillEdward [ Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm getting rejected on makeouts but still manage to pul |
20-30 minutes is relatively fast so some girls will usually not be used to it. You'll have to calibrate for the girl and situation, but it generally takes a few hours. You can also bounce her somewhere close, like another bar or diner, to the sex location before you pull her to build more comfort. Girls will tend to give a lot more LMR if you haven't kissed them before the pull because you haven't set a precedent. It's better to kiss her early on to solidify attraction and not kiss her again until you pull her to a sex location. You don't even have to make out with her and that may even backfire if you make out for too long. A simple kiss on the lips will do. This builds sexual tension, makes her feel less slutty and reduces LMR/buyer's remorse later. |
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| Author: | pumpington [ Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: I'm getting rejected on makeouts but still manage to pul |
Please don't post general questions in the lounge. |
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