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I got my eyebrows done once, everybody that knew me noticed and it was mixed feedback. Not sure if it's worth trying again with that?

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I got my eyebrows done once, everybody that knew me noticed and it was mixed feedback. Not sure if it's worth trying again with that?

I'm just saying they're large. I'm trying to be critical because that's what you asked for... Maybe don't get them 'done' to such a degree this time? Just a little shaping?

Apart from that, dude, I don't really have any feedback for you. Looks are probably not your issue.

- I've done about 50 approaches
- got 5 phone numbers
- only 2 actually responded
- 1 of them progressed into a date.

What's your "Magic Number"?

The Magic Number

I am sure a person in sales would be offended if you told him that what he does is just a numbers game. Sales, as in seduction is both a numbers game and a skill.

What is a magic number

A magic number is how many women you have to contact before you find one who has interest in you based solely on your presence.

Attractive Presence / 1st Impression

- confident approach
- confident body language & posture
- confident eye contact
- looks: clothes, grooming, body
- smile, vibe, glow

What is your magic number

A guy with no confidence, bad posture and no style and could have a magic number as high as 100. Meaning he would have contact 100 women to get one good lead. This is an extreme example but still even with a few minor tweaks to his presence he could easily reduce that number to 1 in 50.

Why its good to know your magic number

What if you knew with 100% certainty that if you approached ten women you would go home with one of them. I think you would be really excited to start approaching ten women.

Having a magic number is helpful because no matter what happens with the other women you approach you know that once you reach your magic number you will have one really good lead. Because you have the seduction skills to turn good leads into closes this is really good news. This makes any rejection you get while working up to your magic number irrelevant.

It’s important to keep good records so you can figure out your magic number. Once you have your magic number you can work on reducing it. You do this by improving your overall presence and first impression.

Reward Rejection

Some managers actually reward their sales people with money for every NO that they get. Each NO gets you closer to a yes.

I guess I thought that a single meetup from 50 approaches was poor.
It felt like so much effort for the result I got.

Being good looking is great. But it won't help in the long run if you want to keep a woman. A woman can have sex with any man she chooses, at any time and most likely that man will sleep with her.

A woman values an emotional connection more than a man who is eye candy. Romance is rare these days...there is a drought and there's only so many players to supply these women with such a connection

Don't get me wrong, looks and peacocking do help. Women do analyze the way a man dresses and the way he maintains himself...but that's only one part of the equation. Your numbers aren't bad...I would keep going! Once you get better you will get more results.

Author:	l61 [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:27 pm ]
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Hey guys, So I'm new to this, only started trying to pick up girls about 2 weeks ago. Most of my approaches have been on moving targets and I'm not getting the success I'd hoped for in all honesty. A lot of girls won't even stop for me, the ones that do all apparently have boyfriends and I'm not sure if it's my opener, body language or I'm just not very good looking. So I'm 5'10, medium build. I had to put space in the link... LINK TO PIC -->> tinypic.c om/r/mma7oy/8 - I've done about 50 approaches - got 5 phone numbers - only 2 actually responded - 1 of them progressed into a date. Am I just not very attractive or would you expect a guy like me to perform better than that?

Author:	CharlesFinley [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:56 pm ]
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You look pretty normal to me. Your eyebrows could use a bit of upkeep...

Author:	Paladin__ [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:57 pm ]
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Your looks are above average. There sure is a glitch in your approach / game style. You will get the hang of it.

Author:	Dragula [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:01 pm ]
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Better looking than me and I am stunning

Author:	l61 [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:02 pm ]
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LOL at that meme!! I got my eyebrows done once, everybody that knew me noticed and it was mixed feedback. Not sure if it's worth trying again with that? -- So what should I be expecting from 50 approaches (cold, moving) ?

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Author:	CharlesFinley [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:05 pm ]
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Quote: I got my eyebrows done once, everybody that knew me noticed and it was mixed feedback. Not sure if it's worth trying again with that? I'm just saying they're large. I'm trying to be critical because that's what you asked for... Maybe don't get them 'done' to such a degree this time? Just a little shaping? Apart from that, dude, I don't really have any feedback for you. Looks are probably not your issue.

Author:	l61 [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:07 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: I got my eyebrows done once, everybody that knew me noticed and it was mixed feedback. Not sure if it's worth trying again with that? I'm just saying they're large. I'm trying to be critical because that's what you asked for... Maybe don't get them 'done' to such a degree this time? Just a little shaping? Apart from that, dude, I don't really have any feedback for you. Looks are probably not your issue. No I absolutely appreciate that and I take on your feedback. I'm hoping looks aren't my issue, but I did have doubts from some of the cold/harsh reactions I got.

Author:	Dragula [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:21 pm ]
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Quote: - I've done about 50 approaches - got 5 phone numbers - only 2 actually responded - 1 of them progressed into a date. In my opinion, these results are great for a newcomer. Like REALLY good. I don't what you're expecting but I am hoping you haven't been brain washed into thinking you can seduce most girls you approach. It simply isn't for a cold approach. A large chunk of girls have legit bf's or husbands, a large chunk, you are simply not their type. You just need to find the potential leads and focus on those ones. Here is something from the legend that is 60 years of challenge, please absorb this mindset into your brain. This concept allowed me to not react when ever i got flaked. My magic number for day game is about 25, night time 12 - online game is easy since the filtering has been done for you. Enjoy Quote: What's your "Magic Number"? The Magic Number I am sure a person in sales would be offended if you told him that what he does is just a numbers game. Sales, as in seduction is both a numbers game and a skill. What is a magic number A magic number is how many women you have to contact before you find one who has interest in you based solely on your presence. Attractive Presence / 1st Impression - confident approach - confident body language & posture - confident eye contact - looks: clothes, grooming, body - smile, vibe, glow What is your magic number A guy with no confidence, bad posture and no style and could have a magic number as high as 100. Meaning he would have contact 100 women to get one good lead. This is an extreme example but still even with a few minor tweaks to his presence he could easily reduce that number to 1 in 50. Why its good to know your magic number What if you knew with 100% certainty that if you approached ten women you would go home with one of them. I think you would be really excited to start approaching ten women. Having a magic number is helpful because no matter what happens with the other women you approach you know that once you reach your magic number you will have one really good lead. Because you have the seduction skills to turn good leads into closes this is really good news. This makes any rejection you get while working up to your magic number irrelevant. It’s important to keep good records so you can figure out your magic number. Once you have your magic number you can work on reducing it. You do this by improving your overall presence and first impression. Reward Rejection Some managers actually reward their sales people with money for every NO that they get. Each NO gets you closer to a yes.

Author:	l61 [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:01 pm ]
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Thanks PEBBLE, great advice. I guess I thought that a single meetup from 50 approaches was poor. It felt like so much effort for the result I got. I'll just keep working on it and hopefully lower my magic number.

Author:	Eddie Fews [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:13 pm ]
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You can start by understanding that women do not necessarily view attractiveness the way men do. Ever had a woman say her friend was really attractive, and then you met her to find out that she wasn't half as attractive as she was made to seem. Well, from your girlfriends perspective she was. beauty is in the eye of the beholder because it is all a reflection of our perception. A woman is judging a mans attractiveness more so on the frame her projects than she is on his physical appearance. Sure she can recognize and attractive guy by saying " he's hot", but could that most attractive guy on the planet walk up to any halfway decent chick and SCREAM "ME YOU, FUCK, NOW" without turning her off completely? No. Now could the hottest girl on the planet walk up to any guy and say the same statement while growling and with crust in her eyes and still get fucked? Yes. We're both horny and we both want sex, but what we ultimately use to determine true sexual attraction is a bit deeper for women than it is for men. Men are visual and because we're this way we naturally assume everyone is this way. Your problem isn't your looks. You're a good looking dude, but there are guys half as good looking that get women to stop for them with less effort. Its in the frame.. You have to get to the point in which you EXPECT women to stop for you. To the point where you begin to think they are completely out of their minds if they don't. Its a psychotic level of confidence you have to develop over time. The same way an anorexic sees themselves as fat despite how skinny they are, you have to view yourself as the most attractive guy on the planet despite what you look like or what other people say. That frame is the frame that will attract women. To your core, you have to believe you are the greatest thing that has ever happened to this planet. You don't say this, you project it. Work on the mindset and your success will change. Your thoughts become your words, your words become your actions, your actions become your habits, your habits become your character, and your character becomes your destiny.

Author:	Dragula [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:14 pm ]
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Quote: I guess I thought that a single meetup from 50 approaches was poor. It felt like so much effort for the result I got. It really isn't bro. Majority of day gamers get like a date every 100,000 approaches lol but they just keep at it and I guess reducing that number with experience. Over time, shit will just become more authentic smooth and your life will change. But you just have to get in the trenches before you get promoted and it becomes a normal way of life

Author:	Mr. Assertive [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:45 pm ]
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Being good looking is great. But it won't help in the long run if you want to keep a woman. A woman can have sex with any man she chooses, at any time and most likely that man will sleep with her. A woman values an emotional connection more than a man who is eye candy. Romance is rare these days...there is a drought and there's only so many players to supply these women with such a connection Don't get me wrong, looks and peacocking do help. Women do analyze the way a man dresses and the way he maintains himself...but that's only one part of the equation. Your numbers aren't bad...I would keep going! Once you get better you will get more results.

Author:	ImPhilosopher [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:23 pm ]
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You are perfect and game doesn't depends on the look. If yor are confident and creative you will see girls start investing in you. But 1st you have to believe that yes you are perfect and there is nothing wrong with your look. -- Philosopher

Author:	skills360 [ Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:31 pm ]
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Quote: Being good looking is great. But it won't help in the long run if you want to keep a woman. A woman can have sex with any man she chooses, at any time and most likely that man will sleep with her. A woman values an emotional connection more than a man who is eye candy. Romance is rare these days...there is a drought and there's only so many players to supply these women with such a connection Don't get me wrong, looks and peacocking do help. Women do analyze the way a man dresses and the way he maintains himself...but that's only one part of the equation. Your numbers aren't bad...I would keep going! Once you get better you will get more results. the only emotional connection needed is putting penis in vagina...

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