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Just got the #, is this a solid follow-up plan?
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Author:  ridinsolo [ Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Just got the #, is this a solid follow-up plan?
Just started experimenting with direct openers in day game, and I must say I am quite pleased with the results from just one day of trying this. Long story short, I approached a 7 in a ladies' clothing store this afternoon and got the # after a ~10 minute conversation. I have her number but not vice versa.

My plan is to send a couple of short logistics focused texts 2 days from now (tuesday) to set up a first date. I know she has an event on Thursday night, which would be my #1 choice for first date time but that's not an option.

Is waiting 2 days too long or is that the right move (other option being also sending a text to her tonight to give her my number)? I'm going to try to push for either a Wednesday night date (which may be too close to the Tuesday I contact her) or a Sunday afternoon date. I don't want to put too much pressure on her by pushing for a friday or saturday first meet.

I've been messing around with a lot of girls in the 6 range who I'm not very attracted to, so I definitely feel some added pressure working with a girl I am actually eager to bang.
Author:  Spacevolt [ Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just got the #, is this a solid follow-up plan?
I'm not sure a lot of guys think that waiting the proverbial 3 days to text or communicate back is a good thing.
yes it might portray that you have something going on but its not full accurate.
I think that when you get a number you should right away call her, so she has your number as well and doesn't forget who you are, specially girls that are getting hit all the time. Once getting her phone number you should let her know exactly when you gonna call her.
one thing i use most of the time when i get a phone number is
after getting the number
me:"I'm calling you, so you can save my number. is it going though?"
hb: usually takes her phone out to check "yeah i got it"
me:"So we should have like secret code names in case you turn out to be a psycho and i need to run away [with a smile.]"
usually they laugh, and agree. but i do tell them my real name, but its hard to pronounce so they always ask me for a nickname.
me: "You can call me ___[whatever nick you have or nick you want her to call you], ... and you should be __[make a funny one that she disagrees and makes her choose one for herself.]_"
me: "wow that sounds great, ok, we gonna be _[your nick]__ and _her [nick]__ i will call you tomorrow at 6pm be by your phone ok [usually look at her in the eye while smiling and waiting for her to respond]"
most of the time they nod a yes or be like "i can't at 6 cause of dada dada, but 8 sounds good."
me: "i'll call you then "

next day i call her briefly just like i said.
usually stay for like 5 minutes then i tell her i have to go.
i say something like
what you doing? hows your day? tell her a quick story?
ask her little more about her like "you seem very girly do you do sports?"
then while the conversation its getting interesting
"hey i have to go now, what day are you off?"
hb:response
me: i'm free a couple hours that day, i want you to come with me to this place
hb: ok
me: "ill call you again soon. "

anyway thats my structure for getting the number and making it smooth for the day 2

because the longer you wait to call her, she starts to be hesitant. because last time she saw you was a couple days ago. and she is starting to forget is you were fun or not.
and i feel like you are already having it all planned out without you even talking to her yet.
You are already looking at a bad road with that mentality.

do not get too much into your head about how everything its gonna go.
if she rejects you or does not follow through your plans you gonna feel shitty.
avoid doing that. first things first.
call her, and move from there. best things are always spontaneous.
Author:  CharlesFinley [ Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just got the #, is this a solid follow-up plan?
You got this number from a cold approach?

Text right away. The memory of you is fading by the minute.

Be playful and reference something from your original encounter if there's anything that warrants being referenced.
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just got the #, is this a solid follow-up plan?
It doesn't matter when you contact as much as it matters what you do with the contact. I've had girlfriends that I forgot to call until 2 weeks later. And iv'e had some I called the same night. And I usually do call the same day or the next day if I remember, but if I don't who cares. As long as the girl picks up the phone when I call i'll make things happen.

The trick is just to strike her emotionally when you do contact her. " Just passed century 21 (or wherever you met her) and peeked in to see if I saw ya. Whatcha up to? :P "

I call, I almost always make the phone call the first forum of contact, but if you must text. A text like the one above should serve you well.
Author:  ridinsolo [ Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just got the #, is this a solid follow-up plan?
Ok so I may mess this up, but I'm following Roosh's advice and waiting 2 days to text b/c 1: texting right away relives the tension of wondering if I will reply back; 2: all guys text right away which groups you in with them and 3: it can appear needy
Author:  Versalis [ Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just got the #, is this a solid follow-up plan?
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Ok so I may mess this up, but I'm following Roosh's advice
Please listen to Charles. Any time you have a choice between Charles(who knows what he's talking about) and Roosh(who spends $6,500 and 190 hours on every woman he sleeps with), choose Charles.
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and waiting 2 days to text b/c 1: texting right away relives the tension of wondering if I will reply back; 2: all guys text right away which groups you in with them and 3: it can appear needy
No, this isn't even remotely accurate. The girl is much more likely to just forget all about you.

I mean yes, if you wait two weeks to contact her, and she wants to meet up, believe you me, it is ON at that point. But she'd probably been dying to fuck you the entire time, and it would have happened two weeks earlier if you had.
Author:  ridinsolo [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just got the #, is this a solid follow-up plan?
I hear what you're saying, but I'm already committed to Roosh's course of action at this point. Time will tell if it was the right move or not. Furthermore, he said to keep texts short and logistics based b/c it is very difficult to build attraction over text, so that's what I plan to do if she responds.

My thought is that I am probably the first person to use a direct day game opener on her in a long time, if not ever. I doubt she will forget about me in 2 days time.
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just got the #, is this a solid follow-up plan?
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I hear what you're saying, but I'm already committed to Roosh's course of action at this point. Time will tell if it was the right move or not. Furthermore, he said to keep texts short and logistics based b/c it is very difficult to build attraction over text, so that's what I plan to do if she responds.

My thought is that I am probably the first person to use a direct day game opener on her in a long time, if not ever. I doubt she will forget about me in 2 days time.
So why did you bother posting on the forum?
Author:  Versalis [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just got the #, is this a solid follow-up plan?
Yeah, I mean Roosh has a forum, if you really want to listen to a dude who sucks with women.
You may also be interested in rsdnation, if you're really looking to fill out your knowledge of ways to waste your own time and piss off the women you interact with.

P.S. Girls actually have guys "go direct" all the fucking time. It's some bizarre fantasy created by PUA "gurus" that women aren't approached regularly by guys saying "You're hot, what's your name". Because they are. Even the fat ones get this at times.
Author:  ridinsolo [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just got the #, is this a solid follow-up plan?
I was posting to get alternative viewpoints, which I did. If this doesn't work out, I will try something different next time, that's how men become better at picking up women. I'm not sure where all this Roosh hate is coming from or even rsd for that matter. Each "guru" usually has something of value to take away. It's why I've read material from roosh, rsd, mystery, gambler, etc. To say Roosh sucks with women is a gross overstatement. The man has slept with hundreds of women, from many different countries. Bang and Day Bang are two of the best books I have ever read in my life. I just don't see the need for all the hate.

I would agree with you that girls get hit on direct a lot, but only during night game. Most guys don't have the balls to use a direct opener on a girl during the day.
Author:  Versalis [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just got the #, is this a solid follow-up plan?
During the day. I'm not talking about at night. Women have men tell them they're cute, sexy, hot, etc, during the day.

You'll see in time what I'm talking about. It's good that you're taking action. Just understand that you're the one succeeding here, and it has little to do with Roosh's advice.
Author:  In$tinct [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just got the #, is this a solid follow-up plan?
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During the day. I'm not talking about at night. Women have men tell them they're cute, sexy, hot, etc, during the day.

You'll see in time what I'm talking about. It's good that you're taking action. Just understand that you're the one succeeding here, and it has little to do with Roosh's advice.
Please listen to this guy, do yourself a favour and never ever listen to anything that Roosh says.

There are quite a few PUA materials that I dislike because they are not really useful, but Roosh's stuff goes beyond being unuseful to straight up damaging. I don't want to derail the thread but if you are really interested in what kind of person Roosh is, I can send you a couple of things in PM.

Just really, stay away from Roosh and anything from RSD. There is a petition in Canada right now to basically ban him from the country, and RSD Julien is already banned from Singapore, and there were attempts at Australia too, though I haven't checked the results of that. There is a reason for this you know... Fucking cancers of society, literally rapists giving the entire PUA a bad name.

I'd argue that basically anything you find will be of more use than RSD and especially than Roosh's stuff, but I wouldn't really spend too much time with studying material. You can read all day about how to play the piano, but a lot better and more effective way of learning it is to sit down and practise. Read one, maximum two books, like the Attraction Code, or Double your Dating, or anything that wasn't written by rapists, and then just go out and practise, there is really no shortcut to this.
Author:  Dragula [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just got the #, is this a solid follow-up plan?
Roosh is a teen wolf looking rapist with AIDS
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