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Author:  Moose185 [ Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:50 pm ]
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I only paid on the first and second dates after that we have spilt everything, I'm meeting her for dinner on Friday and I'm going to ask her then if shes actually interested in me. I think 8 dates is enough to find out if someone likes you.

Author:  R.C [ Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:57 pm ]
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Did you have sex?
Did you make out?

Please answer yes to at least one of those questions.

Author:  CharlesFinley [ Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:40 pm ]
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Need more details.

8 dates is a lot.

How far have you gotten?

You are not escalating. And if you are, you're doing it wrong.

That or she doesn't like you. I'd say 8 dates is evidence she does though... So see my previous remark on escalation ;)

Author:  Moose185 [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:11 am ]
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We've made out at the end of the dates but that's about it. We didn't at the last one because she said she had the flu, I know she was making an excuse which worries me a little.

However she still called the last meeting a date and was flirting with me. We haven't really held hands. She also asked me out for dinner and drinks tomorrow and was really keen about meeting up. I'm a bit confused if she likes me or not.

I think I'm just gonna come out straight and ask tomorrow if she likes me. What do you thibk? At least I know where I stand from there.

Author:  R.C [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:06 am ]
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We've made out at the end of the dates but that's about it. We didn't at the last one because she said she had the flu, I know she was making an excuse which worries me a little.

However she still called the last meeting a date and was flirting with me. We haven't really held hands. She also asked me out for dinner and drinks tomorrow and was really keen about meeting up. I'm a bit confused if she likes me or not.

I think I'm just gonna come out straight and ask tomorrow if she likes me. What do you thibk? At least I know where I stand from there.
I've a few questions/pointers:

1. Why do you make out only at the end of a date? why not during? why not after she just said something cheeky and you're both looking into each others eyes?
Walk me through your typical date with her. Do you just sit and talk, across from each other? because that's what friends do. Or do you sit next to her and escalate physically by touching her leg, holding her palms, hand over shoulder, etc?

2. I heard this "flu" thing hundreds of times. I'll tell you the same thing I tell everyone and do myself. It's your choice whether you want to risk getting "infected" or not. That's your call. Not hers. So if she gives you that, you simply reply :"<Name>, I never get sick" and kiss her. Or the other way around.

3. You're escalating at a slow pace. Very slow in fact. Stop playing it safe. 8 dates should be more than enough to have her over. Take her for a few drinks, dinner, whatever. Kiss her, get physical, show your desire for her. And after that invite her to your place. Whether you choose to say "Let's go back to my place, I have something cool you gotta see" and show her your pokemon collection or just blatantly tell her "Come spend the night" is up to you. Choose whatever fits your personality. If she objects, reply with something similar to "Stop picturing me naked, we're not having sex tonight".

Dates are like texting in a way. You should always have a purpose. What's yours?
Example:

1st date you kiss her at the end. (although you really should do it during)
2nd date you kiss her during, and at the end.
3rd date you kiss her when you meet, during, at the end and hold hands/arms while walking together.
4th date you do all the above and invite her over.

See the pattern? Don't take the above as a rule written in stone, it's just a guideline to give you a proper idea on how every next date should be "more" than the last.

Most importantly, never "ask" a woman if she likes you because frankly, it's pathetic. That's something you figure out on your own by reading her body language, social ques and receptiveness towards your actions. It's like dancing. You're the man, the leader. You propose step. If she follows, she likes you.
You're not doing that right now. You're not moving things forward, not gauging reactions. Ofcourse you don't know where she stands.

Take these things into consideration and keep us updated.

Author:  CharlesFinley [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:08 am ]
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I think I'm just gonna come out straight and ask tomorrow if she likes me. What do you thibk? At least I know where I stand from there.
I think this is a horrible idea - and I think the answer is staring you in the face... She's obviously interested or she wouldn't have gone out with you 8 times.

Escalate. After these makeouts - escalate.

Asking If she likes you is just insecure.

Author:  Dragula [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:38 am ]
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S CAR LATE

Author:  Eddie Fews [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:20 pm ]
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This is the same guy from this post..

5-dates-but-still-confused-vt188966.html

He continues to ask the same question which has already been answered by multiple posters...

All the responses from the post you have already made still apply whether it be the second date or the 1000th date.

Author:  R.C [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:23 pm ]
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Oh how I hate when this happens.

Author:  CharlesFinley [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:05 pm ]
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OP - you've been told what we all think in 2 threads now.

Please don't create a 3rd.

Locked.

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