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Author:  thetipdr [ Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:35 am ]
Post subject:  Need help with match dating

I am 47 and recently divorced. I have been on match com
for a month and have been on 4 dates. They each lasted 2-3 hours for drinks. I feel like I am just landing in the friend zone and need to step up my game. I am 6 2. 170 lbs. lift wts 3/week and am a doctor. I would consider myself average looking. I just started reading the game. I need advice. Are there any post or threads to help with this?

Author:  WillEdward [ Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with match dating

If you're landing in the friend zone, you need to break more rapport to spark attraction and escalate. Qualify her to get investment and reward it with escalation. You must at least try to go for the kiss on the first date and go for the pull. You can check out my signature for more info on these topics.

Author:  CharlesFinley [ Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with match dating

Quote:
I am 47 and recently divorced. I have been on match com
for a month and have been on 4 dates. They each lasted 2-3 hours for drinks. I feel like I am just landing in the friend zone and need to step up my game. I am 6 2. 170 lbs. lift wts 3/week and am a doctor. I would consider myself average looking. I just started reading the game. I need advice. Are there any post or threads to help with this?
Hey man, welcome to the forum!

Never too late to start! There are lots of resources here (use the site/forum search for 'online game' or 'pof' or 'tinder'... Those seem to be more popular than match.com and there will be more threads on them (though beware that they are not exactly the same kind of dating site/app as match.com).

If you've gotten 4 dates in a month you're not doing horribly, so I'm reluctant to peg your profile as the cause of your problems (in most of these 'what am I doing wrong' threads for online dating it's almost always the profile)... I think you're probably not building enough attraction during the dates and not escalating.

Were you attracted to these 4 girls? Would you have wanted to date them again, or sleep with them? If the answer is yes to any of the 4, then you should have been escalating during the date.

Escalation is the most important thing you can do with a girl on a date. It's constant 'pushing' in a gentle/subtle way and it's getting her used to physical interactions with you. Makes it way easier to kiss her at the end of the date, and way easier to get physical, if it gets that far.

Without more examples, that's about as good as I can do for advice, I'm afraid.

Author:  thetipdr [ Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with match dating

3 of the 4 i was attracted to and one of them i will be going out with again. I am totally new to this forum and do not know what you mean by investment, pushing or escalation. do you have examples or suggestions?

Author:  CharlesFinley [ Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with match dating

Sure!

Here's a sticky thread on pickup terms... terms-acronyms-newbie-faq-intro-to-pua-vt3077.html

That may help you decipher some of what I've written ;)

WillEdward used the term investment... which means the same as the financial term, for the most part... She's invested time and energy into you so she cares more about the outcome.

Escalation is a very important term. It's talking, getting sexual/sensual, touching, kissing and moving things forward from there... You can't jump straight from a handshake to sex - so in between there is escalation. Google "Vin DiCarlo's Escalation Ladder" and you'll have a good idea of how to escalate and some possible steps you can take.

Pushing - the same as escalation. Move things forward... IE: from touching, move to kissing... from kissing move to foreplay... etc.

Author:  oceanx [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Need help with match dating

With the next women, severely break from the traditional mind frame of "dating." It is not a business meeting. You two are meeting for the possibility of sex; the two of you are attracted to each other.

Keep the topics off of serious shit; keep it breezy.

You want an overall demeanor that you are very flirty, touchy/feely in a classy/smooth manner, in a similar way that you behave with a woman you're already having sex with.

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