If anyone could give me some stickys,links or articles to read that would point me in the right direction that would be great. If anyone wants to pm me and ask how my "usual routine goes" to see where my weak points are ill let you know". Kind of saves you reading all of this, however you'll get more of my vibe or an indicator as to why things aren't going well.

Without coming across too over confident i'm not saying i'm anything special. I dress well and i'm relatively attractive, like i said nothing special.(to me the results i'm getting for the way i look don't match. I'm not like a world of war-craft bedroom dweller) I do boxing 3 times a week and go to the gym 3 times a week so i'm not overweight or anything like that.

I feel its my social skills in general that's dragging me down. The reason why i love game is because it's not just about the girls it's you as a person. Like those guys who say oh i need a line or a comeback, but what happens when you don't have that and aren't being spoon fed. Top guys don't think oh let me ask for a line, it just comes natural to them and that's what people shoud be aiming for. To be put in the right ball park but working their own style of game out for themselves. (side tracked)

i get numbers but The way my "game" usually ends up is the girl not putting much effort to 0 effort into the interaction and blanking texts(early on), so hardly any chance of getting dates. I always just feel like its a battle between us instead of the occasional shit test. I always get the impression they think they're too good for me or i'm not good enough. Ill be talking to 6-8's but give the impression their 9-10s. Like i can't even game girls that 6-8 let alone 9-10.

Put in the time, put in the numbers, react to your results, continually improve.

If anyone could give me some stickys,links or articles to read that would point me in the right direction that would be great. If anyone wants to pm me and ask how my "usual routine goes" to see where my weak points are ill let you know". Kind of saves you reading all of this, however you'll get more of my vibe or an indicator as to why things aren't going well.

Without coming across too over confident i'm not saying i'm anything special. I dress well and i'm relatively attractive, like i said nothing special.(to me the results i'm getting for the way i look don't match. I'm not like a world of war-craft bedroom dweller) I do boxing 3 times a week and go to the gym 3 times a week so i'm not overweight or anything like that.

I feel its my social skills in general that's dragging me down. The reason why i love game is because it's not just about the girls it's you as a person. Like those guys who say oh i need a line or a comeback, but what happens when you don't have that and aren't being spoon fed. Top guys don't think oh let me ask for a line, it just comes natural to them and that's what people shoud be aiming for. To be put in the right ball park but working their own style of game out for themselves. (side tracked)

i get numbers but The way my "game" usually ends up is the girl not putting much effort to 0 effort into the interaction and blanking texts(early on), so hardly any chance of getting dates. I always just feel like its a battle between us instead of the occasional shit test. I always get the impression they think they're too good for me or i'm not good enough. Ill be talking to 6-8's but give the impression their 9-10s. Like i can't even game girls that 6-8 let alone 9-10.