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Author:  bartm [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:02 pm ]
Post subject:  is there such thing as easy, risk-free sex?
I want the following:

the girl should be at least average looking (not horrendously ugly will do)
I shouldn't have to do any talking other than "hi"
The chance of catching a disease should be 0%
The chance of getting killed, robbed, held hostage should be 0%

I know this is an unreasonable expectation but does something like this exist?
Author:  Kinn [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: is there such thing as easy, risk-free sex?
No.
Author:  Rebooting [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:14 pm ]
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You forgot the "not having to pay for it" part.
Author:  Alpha Male Blueprint [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:01 am ]
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yes. hookers and condoms
Author:  LostInTokyo [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:29 am ]
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Depending on where you are, it may actually be cheaper just to pay for sex then to try picking up girls. For me, I live a $6 1.5 hour train ride from all the action. Then I gotta go to a bar or a club, so that's around $15-50 for food/drink/cover charge, etc. Then I gotta get her out of the place and somewhere private (usually Karaoke) so that's another $20-30. Then to a love hotel, which can be anywhere between $50-120 depending on how long you want to stay. You are most likely going to end up spending $200. Meanwhile You can easily find smoking hot girls online who will have sex with you for $200+hotel fee, so for $50 more than what you would pay for a hookup at a club you can just get a damn hooker and go to a love hotel during their happy hour.
Author:  Dragula [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:54 am ]
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Depending on where you are, it may actually be cheaper just to pay for sex then to try picking up girls. For me, I live a $6 1.5 hour train ride from all the action. Then I gotta go to a bar or a club, so that's around $15-50 for food/drink/cover charge, etc. Then I gotta get her out of the place and somewhere private (usually Karaoke) so that's another $20-30. Then to a love hotel, which can be anywhere between $50-120 depending on how long you want to stay. You are most likely going to end up spending $200. Meanwhile You can easily find smoking hot girls online who will have sex with you for $200+hotel fee, so for $50 more than what you would pay for a hookup at a club you can just get a damn hooker and go to a love hotel during their happy hour.
I have paid for sex in my past but your post is so unhealthy.

I have a fuck buddy that has lasted nearly a year. She pays for a lot of stuff too

Sex is different when it's mutual and you also get the affection benefits. I hope you solve this negative attitude of yours
Author:  LostInTokyo [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:03 am ]
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It may be "unhealthy" but it's not my attitude. It's a straight-up fact of living in a Tokyo suburb 7km away from the nearest major station and 2km away from the nearest minor station. Come here and try it for yourself if you don't believe me. Hell, even with the girl I've been casually dating I spend $120 out going dutch.

Now if I were rolling in dough and could afford to live somewhere near Shibuya or Shinjuku I wouldn't be having this issue.
Author:  Dragula [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:55 am ]
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If I lived on an island with no people then I would move out of there. Like, Dubai for example is a wealthy place with attractive wages but your love life will be difficult over there so Dubai isn't even on my radar when it comes to living.

There is more to life than girls, but for me, if someone told me to live there for 10 years for £5 million I would decline

You're responsible for your happiness. If you are happy doing that for the rest of your life, then that's fair enough. Maybe you want a family of your own one day? - what you gonna do?

To me it seems you're justifying a lack of game or something. I personally never been to Japan but surely you can get laid without paying so much money? - are you white?
Author:  LostInTokyo [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:24 pm ]
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To me it seems you're justifying a lack of game or something. I personally never been to Japan but surely you can get laid without paying so much money? - are you white?
I'm going to preface this by saying that I've been rotating in and out of the four stages of culture shock on a daily if not hourly basis for the past two weeks, so I'm a bit scattered and salty. It hits everyone at some point.

I admit my game is weak, but I am not using these facts to justify that. You are trying to read too much into what I say. Hopefully next year things will be better, but for the moment I am on an exchange teaching program where I have no say in where I get to live because the housing is provided for per my contract. I work at a college, and I live right next to the college. If I didn't have to worry about getting fired I would game the shit out of the thousands of girls who grace these grounds every day. I've gotten digits and dates from bars and international parties, but a ONS or even sex on a date just doesn't work without having a pad in extreme proximity.

And yes I'm white, but that alone doesn't mean anything. If you look up game in Japan, you'll find posts from 2008-2011 saying all you have to do is be white and go into a club, meanwhile what little you can find that's dated 2014 says that the "myth of the white god" is long dead. That asshat pikachu PUA certainly didn't help the situation here either.

To put things in perspective, see image. $5-7 one way, typical club cover charge is $30. Some are as low as $15 but then they get aggressive about getting you to buy their $10 drinks. Lowest love hotel price for 3 hour use is $70, $100-120 for overnight and I guarantee you will not be going dutch.

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Author:  Onoma [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:18 pm ]
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You forgot the "not having to pay for it" part.
Frankly, paying for it is probably the only possible way to get laid without saying anything more than "hi."
Author:  Onoma [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:24 pm ]
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I work at a college, and I live right next to the college. If I didn't have to worry about getting fired I would game the shit out of the thousands of girls who grace these grounds every day.
I have a hard time believing there's a significant chance of you getting fired for dating a student (assuming they're overage.) Professors bang their students all the time, don't they? Plus is it even a problem if it's not one of your own actual students?

It sounds like you're just making an excuse to hold yourself back.

There's a saying: When a person really wants something, they find a way to make it happen. If they don't really want something, they make excuses.

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I've gotten digits and dates from bars and international parties, but a ONS or even sex on a date just doesn't work without having a pad in extreme proximity.
There are no bars or single (non-college-student) women in your area? Again, hard to believe. It may not be as easy as Tokyo, but I'm pretty sure people do manage to meet and get laid outside of big cities.
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And yes I'm white, but that alone doesn't mean anything. If you look up game in Japan, you'll find posts from 2008-2011 saying all you have to do is be white and go into a club, meanwhile what little you can find that's dated 2014 says that the "myth of the white god" is long dead. That asshat pikachu PUA certainly didn't help the situation here either.
D'oh. So much for planning a trip to Tokyo... ;)
Author:  Dragula [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:54 pm ]
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LostIntokyo- Yeah Onoma has said it all.

You have choice unless you live in North Korea or something. I'm sorry but it's all bull shit excuses

You answered the things you wanted to answer and disregarded my other points you didn't want to answer (affection? future family? - what you gonna do?) -

You're too set in your ways and you digressed from the actual point of the thread to make it about you.

Just so you can justify your reason why you have to pay for it all the time. Even your user name conveys a unhappy love life YOU have created. I feel sorry for you. Are you happy though ? Yes or no? - because this is what all that matters. Don't just say 'yes' to win the debate. But really think about if you're happy if not. If it's not a yes then you have to do something about it. Fuck your job or find away to break free.

I could just make a map and put ME and THEM in the SAME location because that's what I did. I made it happen. You are full of excuses.
Author:  LostInTokyo [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:02 pm ]
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I have a hard time believing there's a significant chance of you getting fired for dating a student (assuming they're overage.) Professors bang their students all the time, don't they? Plus is it even a problem if it's not one of your own actual students?

It sounds like you're just making an excuse to hold yourself back.
Considered it, but extremely uneasy about it because I am the very first person on this exchange program (professional reputation), I'm not a direct hire by the school and they provide my housing. It's a huge risk to take when I don't know what the rules are and I'm sure as hell not going to try asking. Use your brain, not your dick. I have heard from a few Japanese people that things are strict in Japan and people have been fired for fucking students. Not at this particular school, though. I even had one crazy bitch I met online threaten to call my school and get me fired for "womanizing."

Career > sticking my dick in everything that moves without regard to consequences. That should be common sense.
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There's a saying: When a person really wants something, they find a way to make it happen. If they don't really want something, they make excuses.
And people who are clueless about certain situations see everything as an excuse.
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There are no bars or single (non-college-student) women in your area? Again, hard to believe.


Well, throwing out the chances of getting busted by a colleague or sleeping with a student who might be going to my school (see above about CONSEQUENCES), there are very few people here who aren't middle-aged families or grandmas. Even so, my place is not big enough for hosting a ONS (not to mention slightly creepy looking on the exterior) and is a 20 minute taxi ride from the city center where all the bars are.

My logistics are fucked, plain and simple.

Pebble, you and the others are projecting your ways onto me, disregarding cold facts and answering what you want to answer and failing to realize that life in a different country is, well, different. I'm starting to wonder if any of you even have careers if you're all so nonchalant about fucking students without even bothering to think about potential consequences.
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You answered the things you wanted to answer and disregarded he stuff you didn't want to answer (affection, future family?)
I addressed that when I said, "Hopefully next year things will be better, but for the moment I am on an exchange teaching program where I have no say in where I get to live because the housing is provided for per my contract." Did you not read that? I will be finding better employment and moving to a better area when my contract is up next year. If you actually read my post you would see I addressed every question, only to be blasted with "you're just making excuses." Please. Use your fucking brain.

I will quit wasting my time trying to explain a situation that you will never understand and refuse to even try to understand.
Author:  Dragula [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:09 pm ]
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I will quit wasting my time trying to explain a situation that you will never understand and refuse to even try to understand.
Easy road. Running away aren't ya

You don't get that it is YOUR choice to be on this teaching program just like it was YOUR choice to go to Japan and fuck YOUR logistics up.

All i'm saying is stop with the BS excuses and work on your life to solve this out for yourself. Getting defensive doesn't do anything. You know we are correct. You just don't wanna admit you're wrong. Women are everywhere, if you're gonna use the "she could be student" as a safety blanket to justify your inaction

Ever heard of online dating? - you can find out their occupation before you message them you tard. EXCUSES
Author:  LostInTokyo [ Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:11 pm ]
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Getting defensive doesn't do anything. You know we are correct. You just don't wanna admit you're wrong.
Being an ass doesn't do anything either. Hence being defensive. And bullshit. Yes it was my choice to come here for my career but there was no way I could have known about my logistics beforehand.

I'm better off figuring out PUA with trial and error instead of asking for advice here.
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