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Why did you just randomly stop talking to her?

That'll get you nowhere.

Just escalate. Plain and simple... See where it goes.

Don't say "I like you" or "I think we should date"... Just escalate.

Start with small kino, work your way up, and if you're getting queues, kiss her.

The reason i stopped is due to the fact that i do too many bf things with her without being her bf

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The reason i stopped is due to the fact that i do too many bf things with her without being her bf

And that should be handled by escalating and making yourself a romantic option... not fading away.

Sorry, thought I covered that...

ESCALATE.

If your kino is already good this should be easy. Get more aggressive with what you're already doing. Work up to kissing.

Friends don't make out with friends. She'll figure out what you're after when your tongue is in her mouth

Wow you have really edited that post since I originally saw it.

Looks nothing like the original version! None of that ridiculous drunk yelling was in the first. Advice may have been different if you provided the whole story initially.

There are a lot of steps between hand holding and kissing.

Google Vin DiCarlo's Escalation Ladder -- that may be helpful.

Also, you can search around on this forum - lots of threads on proper escalation.

she also asked me to show her some of my hot male friends. so, again #friendzoned.

It's pretty clear that this girl is into you. You aren't stepping up.

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she also asked me to show her some of my hot male friends. so, again #friendzoned.

^^This line was said with the intent to make you jealous.

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It's pretty clear that this girl is into you. You aren't stepping up.

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she also asked me to show her some of my hot male friends. so, again #friendzoned.

^^This line was said with the intent to make you jealous.

Wow, this makes me confident

In your opinion how would i step it up correctly? I know that i was told to escalate earlier by more kino and stuff, but I like other views on it.

Kino is easy, but you need to take advantage of it at the right moment. Your intentions when doing kino escalation is to kiss her.

If all that you wrote is true when it comes to the IOI's and how she acts around you, you don't need much advice accept quit being afraid of kissing her.

what really is killing me is that she was dating a guy and that guy kinda dumped her and now he has gf but she still likes him and she is confused. She is trying to move on but says she needs time.

That guy. she keeps talking about him and stuff, but the last time i spoke with her (right after we reestablished rapport) and she told me that she wants to be good friends with him only and she is moving on.

But just the fact she talks about him, tells me I'm friend zoned.

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So what you're saying is that a woman can't be interested in more than one guy at the same time while she is single?

Author:	whitenigga [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:01 pm ]
Post subject:	Seduction of my best friend
Hi So I wanna seduce my best friend and I spend some time improving my game and lurking the forum. I made the decision to break rapport with her for 1 month... I ended up only breaking rapport with her for a week and a half. During this time she made 3 attempts to get in touch with me. First she texted me and then she made her friend text me. I ignored both texts. then she called me and i told her nothing was wrong and that i had to go. Her voice was like "wtf is going on. then she called me again after some days and she asked me why i was acting up ignorning her and why i hanged up on her and that she feels bad and bla bla. Again i state that there is nothing wrong and she says ironically "if you dont tell me, imma gonna hangup" I immediately hang up and say, OKAY. Thing is she confronted me face2face and before our winter holidays and said plain out that she misses me and that she was very confused on wtf is going on. She told me she doesn't give a fuck as long as im good. I just hugged her at this point and she didn't want to loose a hold. She INSISTED on me texting her, so i just texted her and then when i came home i told her to call me and we spoke a little. Problem is when you break rapport your suppose to RECONNECT. I am afraid of returning into the same old pattern as before! The friend zone pattern. I have no idea what to do. breaking rapport again will maybe make it look like im trying to get attention. I have considered of flirting and teasing and kino a little. invite her out. CANCEL plans. Wait some days. and then Invite her out again. Im really confused. can someone give me some advice? EDIT: I forgot to add that I already have a pretty good kino with her. Like i hold hands with her when walking and we hug. Tons of kino. The reason i stopped is due to the fact that i do too many bf things with her without being her bf. Furthermore she has indicated intereset example: we were at a party together and i told her i was leaving for a other party because it was boring. Her being drunk said "FUCK OFF, YOU JUST WANNA SEE OTHER GIRLS. BUT GUESS WHAT. YOUR MINE. HERE IS A RED STICKER SO EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR MINE" and she even mentioned the "joke" a couple times afterwards. what really is killing me is that she was dating a guy and that guy kinda dumped her and now he has gf but she still likes him and she is confused. She is trying to move on but says she needs time. she also asked me to show her some of my hot male friends. so, again #friendzoned.

Author:	CharlesFinley [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:11 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Seduction of my best friend
Why did you just randomly stop talking to her? That'll get you nowhere. Just escalate. Plain and simple... See where it goes. Don't say "I like you" or "I think we should date"... Just escalate. Start with small kino, work your way up, and if you're getting queues, kiss her.

Author:	whitenigga [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Seduction of my best friend
Quote: Why did you just randomly stop talking to her? That'll get you nowhere. Just escalate. Plain and simple... See where it goes. Don't say "I like you" or "I think we should date"... Just escalate. Start with small kino, work your way up, and if you're getting queues, kiss her. I forgot to add that I already have a pretty good kino with her. Like i hold hands with her when walking and we hug. Tons of kino. The reason i stopped is due to the fact that i do too many bf things with her without being her bf. Furthermore she has indicated intereset example: we were at a party together and i told her i was leaving for a other party because it was boring. Her being drunk said "FUCK OFF, YOU JUST WANNA SEE OTHER GIRLS. BUT GUESS WHAT. YOUR MINE. HERE IS A RED STICKER SO EVERYONE KNOWS YOUR MINE" and she even mentioned the "joke" a couple times afterwards. what really is killing me is that she was dating a guy and that guy kinda dumped her and now he has gf but she still likes him and she is confused. She is trying to move on but says she needs time. she also asked me to show her some of my hot male friends. so, again #friendzoned.

Author:	CharlesFinley [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:40 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Seduction of my best friend
Quote: The reason i stopped is due to the fact that i do too many bf things with her without being her bf And that should be handled by escalating and making yourself a romantic option... not fading away.

Author:	whitenigga [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:43 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Seduction of my best friend
Quote: Quote: The reason i stopped is due to the fact that i do too many bf things with her without being her bf And that should be handled by escalating and making yourself a romantic option... not fading away. How would I do that in your opinion? Flirt? Kino more? Ask out?

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Author:	whitenigga [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Seduction of my best friend
Quote: Sorry, thought I covered that... ESCALATE. If your kino is already good this should be easy. Get more aggressive with what you're already doing. Work up to kissing. Friends don't make out with friends. She'll figure out what you're after when your tongue is in her mouth AHhhaha, thanks bro. Now you say "escalate" question is. HOW do I escalate? I already have the kino, so do i just kiss close her?

Author:	CharlesFinley [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:28 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Seduction of my best friend
Wow you have really edited that post since I originally saw it. Looks nothing like the original version! None of that ridiculous drunk yelling was in the first. Advice may have been different if you provided the whole story initially. There are a lot of steps between hand holding and kissing. Google Vin DiCarlo's Escalation Ladder -- that may be helpful. Also, you can search around on this forum - lots of threads on proper escalation.

Author:	whitenigga [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:26 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Seduction of my best friend
Quote: Wow you have really edited that post since I originally saw it. Looks nothing like the original version! None of that ridiculous drunk yelling was in the first. Advice may have been different if you provided the whole story initially. There are a lot of steps between hand holding and kissing. Google Vin DiCarlo's Escalation Ladder -- that may be helpful. Also, you can search around on this forum - lots of threads on proper escalation. Yeah, i realize that. It's just cause there is so many IOI's she has given me, and I am just given the largest. She has also given some Indicators of dis interests and i just named the most important.. Again, thanks for your help. With the new information I gave you, is there anything else you can recommended me to do/ or an approach i should take?

Author:	JackZero [ Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:54 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Seduction of my best friend
It's pretty clear that this girl is into you. You aren't stepping up. Quote: she also asked me to show her some of my hot male friends. so, again #friendzoned. ^^This line was said with the intent to make you jealous.

Author:	whitenigga [ Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:27 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Seduction of my best friend
Quote: It's pretty clear that this girl is into you. You aren't stepping up. Quote: she also asked me to show her some of my hot male friends. so, again #friendzoned. ^^This line was said with the intent to make you jealous. Wow, this makes me confident In your opinion how would i step it up correctly? I know that i was told to escalate earlier by more kino and stuff, but I like other views on it.

Author:	JackZero [ Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Seduction of my best friend
Quote: Quote: It's pretty clear that this girl is into you. You aren't stepping up. Quote: she also asked me to show her some of my hot male friends. so, again #friendzoned. ^^This line was said with the intent to make you jealous. Wow, this makes me confident In your opinion how would i step it up correctly? I know that i was told to escalate earlier by more kino and stuff, but I like other views on it. Kino is easy, but you need to take advantage of it at the right moment. Your intentions when doing kino escalation is to kiss her. If all that you wrote is true when it comes to the IOI's and how she acts around you, you don't need much advice accept quit being afraid of kissing her.

Author:	whitenigga [ Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Seduction of my best friend
Quote: Kino is easy, but you need to take advantage of it at the right moment. Your intentions when doing kino escalation is to kiss her. If all that you wrote is true when it comes to the IOI's and how she acts around you, you don't need much advice accept quit being afraid of kissing her. What I said is true. Lying gives no sense at this point lol but what is making me NOT assume attraction is the following Quote: what really is killing me is that she was dating a guy and that guy kinda dumped her and now he has gf but she still likes him and she is confused. She is trying to move on but says she needs time. That guy. she keeps talking about him and stuff, but the last time i spoke with her (right after we reestablished rapport) and she told me that she wants to be good friends with him only and she is moving on. But just the fact she talks about him, tells me I'm friend zoned.

Author:	JackZero [ Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:26 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Seduction of my best friend
Quote: That guy. she keeps talking about him and stuff, but the last time i spoke with her (right after we reestablished rapport) and she told me that she wants to be good friends with him only and she is moving on. But just the fact she talks about him, tells me I'm friend zoned. So what you're saying is that a woman can't be interested in more than one guy at the same time while she is single?

Author:	whitenigga [ Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:33 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Seduction of my best friend
Quote: Quote: That guy. she keeps talking about him and stuff, but the last time i spoke with her (right after we reestablished rapport) and she told me that she wants to be good friends with him only and she is moving on. But just the fact she talks about him, tells me I'm friend zoned. So what you're saying is that a woman can't be interested in more than one guy at the same time while she is single? Perhaps a oneitis?

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