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Author:  Stallionn [ Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Is she lying or not?
Hi guys, I am wondering.

I have met an Italian girl here in Italy. She is very beautiful, so she turns a lot of heads. She is a waitress at a local bar that everyone goes to. I have tried make a move on her, however she told me that she has a bf. Meanwhile, when I come back to the bar, I feel she does look at me with wanting eyes. The other guys I am with including myself don't really believe she has a bf. I am not really sure, I am so very confused. Not sure what tips you guys can give me to try and seal the deal with this girl and other girls like her.

I have tried playing the cool/bad guy card and it seems to work a bit. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Author:  deactivatedaccount [ Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:31 pm ]
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In my opinion I think her telling you that she has a boyfriend is either a polite way for her to tell you to move on/piss off or she may actually be telling the truth.

Im not sure if this is what you want to hear but moving on seems to be the better option.
Author:  Stallionn [ Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:40 pm ]
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I completely agree and I have. But I see her at this bar all the time, and like I said, the wanting eyes are confusing me. She does come up to me and talk to me quite a bit. So I am not sure if this is just a shit test and she wants me to keep trying.
Author:  Starkz [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:45 pm ]
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Just act like she never said that she had a boyfriend and continue the conversation... get to know her before anything and physically escalate.
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:09 pm ]
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Its possible she does.

But its also possible that it is a defense mechanism that she has developed by being an attractive waitress. They get hit on ALL the time. So their defense should usually be interpreted as a series of test just to ensure the guy in front of them isn't just another "hit on the waitress" guy.

What was the conversation you had with her like when she suggested that she has a boyfriend?

A line I use on women who have boyfriends " I'm not asking you out on a date. I'm just suggesting we hang. I find you to be interesting. You pay for your own food, and I'll pay for mine. Its not a date. We'll just hang out"

But like everything else.. Its all in delivery. The line works great on 9's and 10's that offer you an initial rejection. The premise of the date doesn't matter. Its all about what you do when you guys actually meet up. If you're of the quality to attract her, you naturally will.
Author:  Stallionn [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:05 pm ]
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Hmm these are great tips guys. Thank you!

The conversation I can't exactly remember (also as I am translating it from Italian in my head) but it was a pretty ballsy go on my part. I had drank a bit (we were celebrating a friends departure) and I am naturally an out going guy that will say anything, but when I drink even one, it's amplified 10x. The problem I am having and I am trying to work on his to maybe tame it a little so I can use it in the right instances. I feel I scare girls off sometimes and I never know where the line is. I am really trying to work on being smoother.

The convo went something like:

Me: so when are we going to go out together?
Her: I don't think we can, I have a boyfriend haha.
Me: Hmm.... do you want a new one? :D
*She laughs and chuckles*
Her: No, I really can't, sorry..

HOWEVER, when I go back to the bar, she is always there and she always says hi to me, probably cause she is a nice girl. But I do feel maybe she might be slightly attracted to me. There was one evening she came out with her friends and as I was standing with my friends in a heated tent outside the bar, she asked me to come outside so she could introduce me to her friends. I said no haha and she asked me "You would choose standing in the heat over meeting some beautiful girls?" and I said "yes, bye" haha. Then she came inside the tent and came straight up to me and said "YOU ARE SO BAD" and laughed. (it sounds weird but it's basically "Sei troppo cattivo" which is a very playful way of telling someone they're a trouble maker as apposed to the very sexual meaning in English). As this was going down, the 2 or 3 friends that were around me nodded and smiled to me. Not sure if this means anything, maybe I am reading into it.

Might I remind you gentlemen that this girl is a 10. A perfect specimen of Italian female with a smile that could tame a lion. However, I am in a country that is filled with alpha males who are not afraid to go up to women and talk to them with every ounce of charisma and charm.

Thoughts?
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:31 pm ]
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I say go for it.

The most quality girls usually don't say yes right away. They're happy without anyone, so unless they are 100% sure that this guy can enhanced their life they stay away.

Fight for her bro. You can get it. Just make it a game, in which you consistently ask her out, until she cracks. Show casual persistence.

Just be aware that once you get her, you'll wonder why you made such a big deal about her. She'll humanize. The last time I won over the girl of my dreams I was completely disgusted with the site of her after 3 months. And she was a 10 also. Beauty is all perception. But I say keep going for it. She seems to be into you.
Author:  Kinn [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:41 am ]
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Sounds like a typical waitress flirting with a customer. Move on. Those looks and smiles she's giving you are obviously working because you keep going to her bar and looking for her. She's a waitress doing her job, let it go and move on.
Author:  Stallionn [ Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:54 am ]
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Hmm yeah I understand, and I have already moved on, but I thought the point of this lifestyle was to be able to learn to get any girl we wanted, whether she be a normal girl at a bar or a waitress that is just looking to get extra tips... What can I do to lock this down and be the winner in the end?

J
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:27 pm ]
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Quote:
I say go for it.

The most quality girls usually don't say yes right away. They're happy without anyone, so unless they are 100% sure that this guy can enhanced their life they stay away.

Fight for her bro. You can get it. Just make it a game, in which you consistently ask her out, until she cracks. Show casual persistence.

Just be aware that once you get her, you'll wonder why you made such a big deal about her. She'll humanize. The last time I won over the "girl of my dreams" I was completely disgusted with the site of her after 3 months. And she was a 10 also. Beauty is all perception. But I say keep going for it. She seems to be into you.
^
Author:  Stallionn [ Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:12 am ]
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hah thanks Eddie.F I saw the post. I will try this out and see how it goes. Thanks for the tips guys.
Author:  NYC718 [ Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is she lying or not?
When a woman says she has a boyfriend it doesn't mean anything. They are testing you. SOMETIMES yes they do have one. But if she's looking at you that's definitely an IOI or she's just fucking with your mind. Either way give it another attempt, and move on if it doesn't work.
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