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[DOUBT] I'm getting use with... Almost kiss closing...Twice.
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Author:  Saint. Rod [ Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:01 am ]
Post subject:  [DOUBT] I'm getting use with... Almost kiss closing...Twice.
Hey guys.

I'm starting getting use with approaching girls on street, at nightclubs still a nightmare to me.

Two days ago, I went to a nightclub with a friend. I saw two girls with two guys. At first I thought could be bfs, but layer I realized that was just friends. The girl were boring. Then one of the girls approach my friend and start talking to him. They went in the smoke area and back. He introduced her to me. Then her friends went out and I asked her about her friend, the Japanese girl. When her friend got back, she introduced her to me.
I invited her to dance with me. She accepted. We start dancing close, really close. She isn't the most skilled girl dancing, but was good anyway. Was her first time in a nightclub.
The things was getting hot between us. I was touching her in her back and sometimes times her legs. She didn't complain about it. Then I went to a kiss when our faces were close enough. And she took me that she was shy. But she still dancing with me. Her friend split us after this. A few minutes later the other guy started dance with her and stopped. Then I invited her again. She accepted and we danced two music more. Then she told me that she was tired.
After that I joined to my friend. The girls gone without saying goodbye to us...

In the next day, I went to a meeting to learn Japanese, and I met a Japanese girl there.
We talked a few times during the meeting, and at the end I invited her to go out with me at night. She accepted. I met her in front of her hostel and we went from there to a pub there I like. I really like the place, the environment, music and beer there...

I bought my beer and she bought her own beer. I invited her to dance, she accepted. We danced close and sometimes by ourselves. I was trying manage to give space to her. At the end, we walked around the harbour. And from there we went to MacDonald.
Inside of MacDonald I took some pictures with her. I taught her how say one word in Portuguese and doing this in a way that you press your lips and is funny. It's kind of thing that you do with kids. She liked it.
I was hugging her. Holding her hands. Touching her face. Smelling her neck. But when I tried kiss her, she told me that she was a Japanese girl and she was shy. She didn't kiss me, but she was ok with everything else. She even told me that she was looking forward to seeing me again. She left New Zealand today, but we talked about I go there to see her and she coming back to see me.

So, where I miss this time?
Author:  CharlesFinley [ Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [DOUBT] I'm getting use with... Almost kiss closing...Tw
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Then I went to a kiss when our faces were close enough. And she took me that she was shy. But she still dancing with me. Her friend split us after this. A few minutes later the other guy started dance with her and stopped. Then I invited her again. She accepted and we danced two music more. Then she told me that she was tired.
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But when I tried kiss her, she told me that she was a Japanese girl and she was shy. She didn't kiss me, but she was ok with everything else. She even told me that she was looking forward to seeing me again. She left New Zealand today, but we talked about I go there to see her and she coming back to see me.

Neither of these girls were really into you. I mean cmon - you're heading to NZ to see some chick who wouldn't kiss you? Not the most solid lead ;)

Try non-shy Japanese girls, for one... Any reason you're going for only extremely timid Japanese chicks?

I can't really tell if maybe you aren't escalating properly or well enough before you try to kiss these girls, or if they just aren't really interested and you're mis-reading their queues.
Author:  Saint. Rod [ Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [DOUBT] I'm getting use with... Almost kiss closing...Tw
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Neither of these girls were really into you. I mean cmon - you're heading to NZ to see some chick who wouldn't kiss you? Not the most solid lead ;)

Try non-shy Japanese girls, for one... Any reason you're going for only extremely timid Japanese chicks?

I can't really tell if maybe you aren't escalating properly or well enough before you try to kiss these girls, or if they just aren't really interested and you're mis-reading their queues.
Well, I have plans to live in New Zealand for good. And one thing that I like here a lot is that in Auckland has a lot of Asian girls. So, always that is possible I hit on Asian girls rather than others. But for me is quite challenging, since the culture is very different...

I'm not looking for shy Japanese girls, it's just something that happened this time. I tried once with another non shy Japanese girl, but I did something wrong with her too... But it's another history.


About Kino, I never used to think about how important is kino before start read and learn more about pick up artist.
Since then, I have been trying applying soon as possible, and progressively.
I always start by the hand, and move to shoulder, hug, arm, knee, legs, waist, neck, face, hair, and then I try kiss.
With both girls I did pretty much all things above, and one of them I touched her ass... And I know that others guys could close them with less effort and kino... But I can't see by myself what I'm doing wrong.
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