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Author:  nathoonder [ Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Day game vs night game

Still trying to develop my game, it's really still in it's infancy at this point. I'm wondering which garners more success, day or night game? I've never even tried night gaming, mostly because I work at 5am and even on days/nights off I prefer to keep the same sleep cycle and keep my circadian rhythm locked in. I know my game needs work but could it be that night game is just plain easier than doing so in the day?

Author:  .Sage. [ Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day game vs night game

From experience, Day game will help you improve as far as putting yourself out there socially. Night game is faster paced but is usually less about practice and more about enjoying yourself and being in the moment, which is important to have too.

In short, both will help you improve your game as both have advantages and disadvantages. If you want more detail let me know.

Author:  Versalis [ Sat Dec 27, 2014 4:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day game vs night game

If you are good at night game, it is absolutely easier. Girls are going out to the club to get fucked.
They are not going out to Starbucks to get fucked. Girls in a club are more likely to be single. And more likely looking for sex.

Author:  nathoonder [ Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:12 pm ]
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If you are good at night game, it is absolutely easier. Girls are going out to the club to get fucked.
They are not going out to Starbucks to get fucked. Girls in a club are more likely to be single. And more likely looking for sex.

Who said anything about fucking? I'd settle for just a number

Author:  Versalis [ Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day game vs night game

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If you are good at night game, it is absolutely easier. Girls are going out to the club to get fucked.
They are not going out to Starbucks to get fucked. Girls in a club are more likely to be single. And more likely looking for sex.

Who said anything about fucking? I'd settle for just a number
Ok
Well, then you'll love night game even more. You can literally walk up to a girl and say "Give me your number" and often times, she will!

It will go nowhere. But you can easily rack up dozens of numbers in a single night.

However, I don't think you actually want numbers.

Are you actually looking for a girlfriend, FWBs or fuck buddy? That's harder from pulling girls from clubs as they're often just using you for sex and never want to see you again. Your odds of getting a girlfriend from clubs is probably pretty similar to day time.

Author:  nathoonder [ Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day game vs night game

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[quote="Versalis"
Well, then you'll love night game even more. You can literally walk up to a girl and say "Give me your number" and often times, she will!

It will go nowhere. But you can easily rack up dozens of numbers in a single night.

However, I don't think you actually want numbers.

Are you actually looking for a girlfriend, FWBs or fuck buddy? That's harder from pulling girls from clubs as they're often just using you for sex and never want to see you again. Your odds of getting a girlfriend from clubs is probably pretty similar to day time.
" You can literally walk up to a girl and say "Give me your number" and often times, she will!" That is wild! Just goes to show I have much to learn. Who knows one of those might go somewhere, worth a shot.

Author:  CESARE [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:46 am ]
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If you are good at night game, it is absolutely easier. Girls are going out to the club to get fucked.
They are not going out to Starbucks to get fucked. Girls in a club are more likely to be single. And more likely looking for sex.

Who said anything about fucking? I'd settle for just a number

You go out just to get phone numbers? Well, life must be really easy for you then...

Author:  Dragula [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Day game vs night game

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[quote="Versalis"
Well, then you'll love night game even more. You can literally walk up to a girl and say "Give me your number" and often times, she will!

It will go nowhere. But you can easily rack up dozens of numbers in a single night.

However, I don't think you actually want numbers.

Are you actually looking for a girlfriend, FWBs or fuck buddy? That's harder from pulling girls from clubs as they're often just using you for sex and never want to see you again. Your odds of getting a girlfriend from clubs is probably pretty similar to day time.
" You can literally walk up to a girl and say "Give me your number" and often times, she will!" That is wild! Just goes to show I have much to learn. Who knows one of those might go somewhere, worth a shot.
If you approach with the sex goal in the mind, you're more likely to get a phone number or a make out because your expectations were way past just step 1

Man, I feel so sorry for you, will leave this with you:

Image

And this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mRM1VwUiYA

Author:  nathoonder [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day game vs night game

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Ha! That link is really ironic. I just got a cashier's number at Barnes & Noble last night, WHILE BUYING A BOOK ON SEDUCTION. She says "you don't seem like you need this" and goes on to say if anything SHE needs it because she can't find a boyfriend so I was like.. "Put your number in my phone". Not sure if it'll work out, when I asked her out for Thursday she said she'd be out of state for a week, idk. Time will tell.

Author:  NYC718 [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:16 pm ]
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Numbers are useless bro. Women give their number to every guy. If a girl likes you, she will respond immediately when you do get the number, and in order to do that she has to really like you at the initial meeting.

A number from some drunk chick in a bar is beyond useless. I know what I'm talking about been going to bars for over a decade.

Author:  Versalis [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day game vs night game

I think he's building a collection. Like stamps or baseball cards. Only with phone numbers.

If you use this metric, Vince Kelvin is actually very successful. He brags that he can net over 80 phone numbers in a weekend. I've always viewed this as a clear proof of doing something wrong. But if your goal literally ends at phone numbers, then I guess that's great.

Author:  Dragula [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day game vs night game

Versalis - Do you think if you was to bulk text those 80 numbers, (if you have cool fundamentals) it would be likely to get a few dates from that..?

Vince Kelvin is essentially a little annoying gay clown, but I would be lying if I didn't admit that some of the weakest number closes has lead me down to some amazing times with women. It seems the one that I seem to connect with usually flake - It's bizarre.

Paul Janka is a serial number closer, but if you watch him in action, you can just tell he would get results by being much smoother compared to Kince Velvin and barely connects with women, more like a phantom style of approach.

Author:  Versalis [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day game vs night game

If you look like Janka? Yeah, probably.
But this guy was literally a male model for several years. He's tall, handsome, Harvard educated(smart), and fairly wealthy for his age.

Can a guy in a similar situation see similar results? Probably.

Now from experience, I have no idea. I've never spam approached. And I don't even ask for numbers any more. I talk to them for a while. We agree to do something together. Yes, I take a number, but not before that.

I've done taking a number with no specific plans in the past. Yes, I got some dates off of that. And some lays as well(though a worse average). But it was not a great use of my time. I have a higher date/lay percentage for when she agrees to do something right in front of me, than just grabbing a number and texting her.

I've never even tried talking to her for 30 seconds and asking for a number. No idea, but I'm pretty sure that would go nowhere for me. I usually hit on girls 2 points above me(don't know what you do).
That said, you're better looking than me. I saw you post one of your dating profiles in another thread. So your results may be different.

Author:  dtrak [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day game vs night game

My take on night game vs. daygame, after one whole year of going out everynight:

Do whatever is convinient for you, as long as you are consitantly going out either during the day or at night and approaching girls > following through to the best of your ability and improving, both ways will produce results

I'm going to stress the importance of lifestyle vs. blind faith pick up

Maintain a lifestyle in which you feel comfortable going out either during the day or at night/ i'd say come up with a schedule that suits you, but i will repeat - make sure is a consistant schedule and you stick to it, results will come, inevitably if you push through.

Make it fun for you, make it convenient for you.

Both games can be mastered, both games can be effective, is all about what your main purpose in life is and what is convinient for you, also what are your goals. Keep that in mind.

But in the end, both work really well, just dont let pick up drag you into a world of "emptiness and external validation seeking" bring forth all your success from a place inside of you, of complete contemptness with yourself. (these concepts might be hard to grasp at first but produce results)

lol sorry for the extra ramble, i hope this helps and you get my point :)

Enjoy the game and good luck , boss ;)

Author:  skills360 [ Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Day game vs night game

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My take on night game vs. daygame, after one whole year of going out everynight:

Do whatever is convinient for you, as long as you are consitantly going out either during the day or at night and approaching girls > following through to the best of your ability and improving, both ways will produce results

I'm going to stress the importance of lifestyle vs. blind faith pick up

Maintain a lifestyle in which you feel comfortable going out either during the day or at night/ i'd say come up with a schedule that suits you, but i will repeat - make sure is a consistant schedule and you stick to it, results will come, inevitably if you push through.

Make it fun for you, make it convenient for you.

Both games can be mastered, both games can be effective, is all about what your main purpose in life is and what is convinient for you, also what are your goals. Keep that in mind.

But in the end, both work really well, just dont let pick up drag you into a world of "emptiness and external validation seeking" bring forth all your success from a place inside of you, of complete contemptness with yourself. (these concepts might be hard to grasp at first but produce results)

lol sorry for the extra ramble, i hope this helps and you get my point :)

Enjoy the game and good luck , boss ;)

^ actually this is right! do whatever works for YOU, try them both..

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